Are bath time photographs of your kids pornographic?

OogieBoogie · 09-21-2009, 04:35 PM

I saw this article in todays paper and couldn't believe it.

Quote:

Last fall A.J. and Lisa Demaree took a memory stick with family photos to the printing center at the Wal-Mart store in Peoria, Ariz. Some of the photos showed their three young girls, all under 5 years old, partially nude in the bathtub. The Demarees say these were innocent pictures that all families take. But a Wal-Mart employee felt otherwise and contacted the police who agreed that this was a child pornography situation.

The Demaree's lawyer released this photo to show the pictures of the girls are innocent.

The police report read, "The young girl appeared to be posed in a provocative manner." A report issued by Peoria authorities described the photos as "child erotica" and "sex exploitation."

Child Protective Services searched the Demaree home and took custody of the children for a month while the state investigated. The watched family videotapes and found a few in which the children were playing unclothed. Lisa was suspended from her school job for a year, and both of their names were placed on the sex offender registry. The couple spent $75,000 on legal bills.

The Demarees were eventually cleared of any charges and their daughters returned, but they are now suing the state and Wal-Mart for what they call unfair accusations.

This morning the Demarees appeared on "Good Morning America." "I don't' understand it at all," A.J. told "GMA." "Ninety-nine percent of the families in America have these exact same photos."

"It took us a long time to take a picture [again]," Lisa told "GMA." "I even worry about them in their bathing suits now, if I get a shot of them in their bathing suits and they're tilting their heads a certain way or their hips are sticking out a little bit, all I think of is 'Does someone think that it was posed? Or how is that going to be perceived?'"

"Honestly we've missed a year of our children's lives as far as our memories go," Lisa added, "As crazy as it may seem, what you may think are the most beautiful innocent pictures of your children may be seen as something completely different and completely perverted."

So what do you guys think about this?

OogieBoogie · 09-21-2009, 04:39 PM

Umm.. could a mod please change 'porographic' in the title of this thread to 'pornographic' or 'obscene'? Thanks.

Stitchy · 09-21-2009, 04:42 PM

ridiculous. Sad that time is wasted persecuting innocent parents like this, when there are REAL threats out there. And being ignored.

*dsnylndmom* · 09-21-2009, 04:44 PM

Absolutely ridiculous.

aimster · 09-21-2009, 04:46 PM

Another case of being overly sensitive and overly PC.

*sir clinksalot* · 09-21-2009, 04:47 PM

Absolutely NOT!!!

The only thing that would make a picture like that pornographic would be the sick mind of somebody looking at it and MAKING it pornographic.

Jesser-pie · 09-21-2009, 04:54 PM

This just proves how ridiculous society has become.

That photo looked like everyother childhood photo. All my friends and I have pictures like these people.

It is actually really upsetting...I'm more angry at the police and the employee for putting these people through this.

I watch a disturbing show called Toddlers in tiara's where the girls wear more make up than me and bikinis (one pageant judge said going safe with a one piece suit was risky). If anyone should go through all this, its the parents that exploit their kids on that show...
http://borrowingtrouble.files.wordpr...08/bathing.jpg
http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X134...lerpageant.png
http://x05.xanga.com/dd0f3af24243025...b198735639.jpg

These are fake, staged, and entirely disgusting (particular since this is a show as opposed to a private photo of your kids having fun around bathtime).

All4dISNEY · 09-21-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sir clinksalot

Absolutely NOT!!!

The only thing that would make a picture like that pornographic would be the sick mind of somebody looking at it and MAKING it pornographic.

Word. My feelings exactly Clinks.

Aladdin · 09-21-2009, 09:33 PM

yeah, good ol' arizona

I hope WalMart, City of Peoria Police, and CPS get their ~~*****~~ Butts sued off!

*penguinsoda* · 09-21-2009, 11:52 PM

Well I hope they never look through any of my old photo albums. I've got one of my daughter when she was just a couple of weeks old, stark naked the first time I put her in her little plastic bath tub... then there's the pictures her running around the house with her diaper falling off...

Oh my! I've just admitted I have photos of my daughter!!! The authorities are going to be after me now!!

Insane.

*SummerInFL* · 09-22-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinsoda

Well I hope they never look through any of my old photo albums. I've got one of my daughter when she was just a couple of weeks old, stark naked the first time I put her in her little plastic bath tub... then there's the pictures her running around the house with her diaper falling off...

Oh my! I've just admitted I have photos of my daughter!!! The authorities are going to be after me now!!

Insane.

Agreed.

PretzelSouls · 09-22-2009, 07:57 AM

That's ridiculous. People have too much time on their hands...

CaliforniaDreaming · 09-22-2009, 04:02 PM

The photo released by the lawyer doesn't remotely match the descriptions from the police and city reports. The disparity between the reports' language and the image shown here is so wide that I have to assume this particular photo is not one that raised red flags for store employees, law enforcement and social workers.

Without more information, I have to assume there's more to this story and the lawyer is attempting a media offensive by selectively releasing evidence favorable to his clients. The only alternative is incompetence by the public agencies in question on such a massive scale as to be farcical.

SnorkletsMom · 09-22-2009, 04:11 PM

Usually photos like this are questionable only when they are in the possession of someone other than a parent or grandparent. In other words, if you have an entire collection of little girl bathtime photos, you're probably a perv.

Without seeing the actual photos and arrest warrants, etc. none of us know what really happened. Remember that there is a lot of child porn out there and sick as it is, much of it is produced by or with the consent of a parent or guardian.

cositaluvsmickey · 09-22-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stitchy

ridiculous. Sad that time is wasted persecuting innocent parents like this, when there are REAL threats out there. And being ignored.

here here...there are soo many preverts out there and they waste time like this...its totally rediculous..

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