Hong Kong DisneySEA
Hong Kong DisneySEA
Why not a park based on Stories Myths and Legends or some other completely unique theme that would draw visitors from around Asia to the resort...
I will go for something called DisneyAir. Emphasis on all things aeronautical, tall and flies in air or space.
Twilight Zone Tower of Terror
Peter Pan's Flight
Iron Man roller coaster
Goofy's Sky School
Wall-E (dark ride)
Up (hot air balloon rides)
Aladdin's magic carpets
... and so on
I was thinking something along the lines of Hong Kong Disney Adventure (not DHKA, it would make the theme too specific). The attractions would be what HKDL was meant to get but never got.
- The massive Frontierland with the rapids ride and Mark Twain.
- Pirates land if HKDL doesn't get it.
- Glacier Bay
- Indiana Jones, or Star Tours could make it in a Hollywoodland of some sort along with maybe one stage show or another attraction.
- The electrical parade could perform here instead of HKDL.
Wouldn't a HK DisneySea draw too much comparison with both Tokyo DisneySea and OceanPark?
@Asa & HKDLFAN, what do locals want anyway?
I understand OP has a deep nostalgic appeal to locals since it's been around since 1977, but what else is there to it?
I don't now if Asians in general would visit an uber-American theme park - leave that to the Americans. With an oriental themed park they can incorporate anything from Aladdin's Agrabah to Mulan's Imperial City and in-between you have the mysterious lands of dragons and folklore.
Shanghai Disneyland is already getting an "EastCOT" and an Animal Kingdom (which may have dragons in it as one would presume).
If they build a DisneySEA... why would it be bad if people compared it to Japan. Isnīt that what people do with all the other parks all over the world? Isnīt that what this entire forum is about? to discuss differences and things going on in different ways in the parks. Ocean Park could be a problem... but people would realize that DisneySEA is always better if done with the same level of detail as in Tokyo.
People compare HKDL with TDL by the way.
Are there any hints about when Grizzly Gulch will be opening other than just '2012'?
I'll be heading there in February next year... I'm sure it probably won't be ready then but it would be a nice surprise!
I think that inevitably it's going to be a Studios-themed park, along the lines of DHS or WDS, since it can be built fairly cheaply ('why waste money on theming when you can just pour concrete?!?'), it can be built up gradually, most of its rides can be cloned and because there's no equivalent already in Asia. However it's the least interesting theme to me.
I would like to see something completely new, ideally something that makes a feature of the waterfront location rather than hiding it.
Failing that, I would think that they could do a clone of either Future World at Epcot or World Showcase (but with rides). I think either could work really well.
As for the locals, all they want is THRILL RIDES. That is why Ocean Park excels, because of thrill rides and a high attraction count (keep in mind the 50-60 attractions Ocean Park has are 30% comprised of stuff like talking trees, fountains and photo-spots. But the no. count is good enough to lure people away from HKDL). Despite TSL being horrid and all, it is good for the park because it offers 3 THRILL rides (be they cheap carnival ones or not).
HKDL could be getting much better attendance scores than OP if it was doing well locally. It's thriving tourist-wise as opposed to OP, but the 27% of locals that visit the park is really poor. From the many opinion letters published in local newspapers, HK locals find better value from Ocean Park. A trip to Disneyland is something done once (or once every two years) a year whereas Ocean Park is a weekend favorite.
ORWEN: You may be right about the guests over there wanting more thrill rides, HKDLFAN, duckling. But us cauldron girls remember reading just the opposite when HKDL was originally planned. (Supposedly there were surveys done that claimed the locals in Hong Kong preferred taking pictures over thrill ride type attractions. But we don't claim to know what the hard facts really are about all this.) There are several trip reports we've read that claim Space Mountain has short lines while Winnie the Pooh has some of the longest. What are your thoughts on this?
...and let me just add... I have been to themeparks in many places of the world... Ocean Park is the worst I have ever visited.
Yeah, cloning the best second gate out there is the easy way out isn't it?
Tokyo DisneySea is not promoted outside of Japan, because WDC does not want people flocking to it and make all other parks suffer by people comparing the other parks with it. Don't forget how expensive DisneySea is to build. WDC cannot afford to build DisneySea anywhere else and if they cannot build it in California or Florida, I doubt they will be able to build it in HK. If they built a cut price version of DisneySea in HK, what would people say? I can write it for you now: "A cheap remake. They tried to re-build the best park here but ran out of money."
HK people loves the picture taking and so on at HKDL, but it still lacks rides. OK, Space Mountain is maybe a bit too thrilling, but where is Big Thunder Mountain? Where is Haunted Mansion? Where is Pirates of the Carribean? Where is Indiana Jones? Where is Star Tours? What is a teenage boy going to do in HKDL? Ride Space Mountain repeatedly until sunset?
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A HK DisneySEA would not draw those kinds of comparisons because no one knows a lot about TDS apart from us Disney fans. Besides who said anything about cloning? The concept of DisneySEA is great enough for people to want to go there.
I so agree with you that there is zilch for a teenager ( who make up a lot of OP's demographic) to do at the park except Space Mountain. There was literally no one in my school who liked HKDL because it's a "kiddy ride". But then again that's why the park is failing locally.
@Witches - I remember making the same assumption that Winnie the Pooh is more popular than Space Mountain but ever since HKDL started getting much more people ( to the surprise of everyone it went past the 5 million mark in 2010) lines at Space Mountain have been quite high. In the few months before i left HK, I remember the usual 5 minute line for single riders jumped up to 20 minutes with the standard queue being 1 hour +. But HKDL could do with a few more dark rides in Fantasyland since Pooh is quite popular.