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    HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    According to earlier news report by HKET news


    25/01/2011 08:36
    海洋公園擬重建水上樂園最快明年落實,新主題區明開幕

      繼迪士尼希望今年與港府展開第二輪擴建商討後,海洋公園昨(24日)透露,計劃將園內
    大樹灣及集古村的土地,用作第二輪擴建,其中考慮重建水上樂園、興建第四間酒店及其他主題
    園區,預料最快明年或可落實構思。
      園方又透露,與香港迪士尼上年度相同時段比較,海洋公園人流達約540萬人次,較迪士
    尼多約17萬。
      海洋公園全新主題區夢幻水都及公園全新正門,於明日(26日)舉行開幕禮、周四正式啟
    用,公園開放時間會延長1小時至晚上8時(不同季節會改變)。夢幻水都落成後,每晚均有大
    型水中煙火表演。
      海洋公園主席盛智文及高層昨會見傳媒,介紹公園發展。他指出,今年有三個新擴建主題區
    落成,最後一個擴建園區冰極天地,於明年啟用後,即55﹒5億元擴建計劃已完成,對公園未
    來發展十分重要。《香港經濟日報》

    HKOP (HK Ocean Park) Plans to develop the area now occupied at Tai Shue Bay for further expansion. Plans for a water park, 4th hotel and Other themed areas to be considered, and this would be added after the completion of the current HK$5.55 billion master redevelopment plan (2012).

    HKDL Wishes to kick start a new negotiation with HK Gov for further expansion.

    HKDL

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Glad to know officially that the HK gov't is aware for the need for further development. It just pains me to think that it'll probably be a good five years away at least. Again, more rides would be quicker than new lands. The current expansions would be enough landwise, but how about a dark ride or two for Fantasyland, an EPCOT-esque attraction for Tomorrowland, and a flume ride in Adventureland? Or for goodness' sake, a cinema in Main Street!

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    There's plenty of scope for additions to Hong Kong Disneyland that's the good part. The downside is the potential wrangling that might take place to actually get it done.

    Timing is key. The new lands open in '13, Shanghai in '16 and no doubt it will draw attention from Hong Kong.

    Question is, will Phase II be enough to tide them over until late '16/early '17?

    I'd have to say that we can hope it is. It'd surely be more beneficial to open a shiny new "Shanghai-hasn't-got-one-of-these" attractions once the Grand Opening hub-bub has died down.


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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Don't forget that Hong Kong is the crown jewel of that region. Much more people come to Hong Kong than Shanghai because HK is amazing. If HKDL can persuade the 30 million tourists a year to come for a visit than that could be good. Remember that HKDL caters for people who can't go to US, Japan and Paris- Most of Asia including Australia. They ran a very successful marketing campaign in India and it looked like it did.

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Totally agree with you HKDLFAN I was going to take my Granddaughter to the USA for a 6 day trip to Disneyland, Just for airfares alone are now over the AUD$6500 mark to the USA for 2 Adults and 1 Child. Last November we paid AUD$3150 for 3 Adults, the USA is just out of my budget so we are going to HKD for 6 days for AUD$5000 including Airfares, Disneyland Hotel, Tickets and Transfers. I do not know why the USA airfares from Australia are so expensive now, If it was not for the 27 hours of airports and flights, We can go to Paris Disneyland for 6 days for AUD$7000 all inclusive. There is no advertising in Australia for HKD just a few deals from local TA that show up twice a year in the newspapers, I really love HKD and think it is a great park HKD has the best DL Band I have ever seen and the food is just amazing. You see I promised my Granddaughter I would take her to Disneyland once she got a passport and her mum got her one last month so as I promised I will take her to HKD.
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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    news on further expansion (source:HKET.com)

    灰熊山谷迷離莊園 提早開幕迎勁敵
    迪士尼次輪擴建 2013動工
      港迪士尼面對本港、上海及韓國主題公園的競爭,昨宣布兩個新擴建園區,均可提早一年於2013年全部落 成。

      據本報了解,新園區提早完成,可加快第二輪擴建進度,迪士尼與樂園大股東的港府早前已就第二輪擴建展開 初步討論,料可於2013年前後動工,若財務狀況許可,不排除會同時興建新酒店,及迪士尼小鎮購物區等全新 設施。

    冀不用立會撥款 加快進度

      消息透露,迪士尼希望第二輪擴建不用要求立法會撥款,例如以樂園日常收入、樂園管理公司融資、又或迪士 尼集團注資等方式興建,有助加快進度。

      此外,港府可將第1期用地的40億元地價,變成股份,又或將第一輪擴建保留的10億元貸款,用以債代股 方式變相注資,但此兩方式,均可能要立法會通過。

      香港迪士尼第一輪擴建於2009年落實,將興建三個新園區,首個「反斗奇兵大本營」希望爭取於今年秋季 啟用。

      華特迪士尼行政總裁羅伯特艾格,及華特迪士尼樂園及度假區主席湯世德於本周一抵港,前日更前往三個新園 區工地了解最新進展。香港迪士尼昨宣布,原定2013年落成的「灰熊山谷」及2014年落成的「迷離莊園」 ,均可提前1年完成,即分別於2012及2013年開幕。

      據悉,羅伯特艾格將於明日在上海主持上海迪士尼動工儀式,之前趁機訪港了解擴建情況,並進行公司內部會 議。

      香港迪士尼行政總裁金民豪今年初曾表示希望今年內與港府展開樂園第二輪擴建,讓第一輪擴建完成後,樂園 可繼續發展,保持競爭力。

    增人流改善財務 保競爭力

      據本報了解,樂園大股東的港府已與迪士尼集團就第二輪擴建展開初步討論,雙方均認同必須繼續擴建,第一 輪擴建提早1年完成,令樂園可盡快令人流上升,又可增加收入改善財務狀況,可加快第二輪擴建。

      消息透露,第二輪擴建希望可緊接第一輪擴建完成後,於2013年前後動工,因計劃不再向立法會申請撥款 ,故商討進度可較快並具彈性。

      消息又指,樂園仍有約7公頃土地,可在第二輪擴建中興建遊樂設施,不排除會興建1至2所酒店、或擴建現 時迪士尼好萊塢酒店;另可興建約25萬呎迪士尼小鎮購物區,但目前仍未有決定,要視乎未來入場人數及財務狀 況。(source:HKET.com)

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    As per the above news from HKET.com,

    There is around 7 hectare of vacant land remaining after the completion of 3 new lands, and they might consider adding more rides or attractions on that piece of vacant land. They also consider to build 250,000sq ft of shopping district, one or two new hotels or expanding the cuurent Hollywood hotel. Construction for further expansion might start sometime before or after 2013 but No firm decision has been made.

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Every time I see "expand/add hotels" Paris immediately jumps to mind, but they've learnt their lesson. There must be demand for extra rooms if so, that's fine, although I'd push it down the to do list.

    Attractions must be top priority. And a new shopping district would just add more to the resort experience, but must never be a substitute or added at the expense of in-park attractions.


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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Disney and HKgovt, please add an adventurous thrilling ride to the most calm and boring place on earth... HKDL´s Adventureland. ...or just rename it Serenityland.

    No land should be a "one ride land"!
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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    This is the original expansion master plan:


    It shows expansion wings to both the Hollywood and Disneyland hotels. I wonder if they would build-out these hotels, as planned, before starting on new ones. It also shows the expansion pads - 3 or 4 of which will still be available after this round of expansion if finished in 2013.

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Thanks for that plan. I'm not terribly familiar with all of HKDL, so was "2" where small world was built or is there still room around there?

    And I take it "16" is prime for Downtown Disney?


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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    "16" is enough space for Downtown Disney in my opinion. The walk from the carpark to the hotels through the promenade is a 15 minute walk and very tiring during humid weather/very annoying in the occasional typhoons and rain. The site from which this master plan comes from (EDG Projects) has some interesting stuff e.g future plan is to have 2 theme parks, 6 hotels.

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    There is plenty of space! Let´s hope they use it for rides!

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    Re: HKOP and HKDL preparing for further expansion

    Toy Story Land just ruins the whole bloody layout being in that particular area...It should have been placed right next to IASW so it didn't ruin the possibility of Adventureland getting a well-placed ride...

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