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    Re: How is the park going to compete against Ocean Park

    Macau is much smaller than Hong Kong and now they have the biggest casino in the world.

    That Venetian Macau is really huge!!! much bigger than their original Las Vegas Version.

    and don't forget, Venetian Macau is only the beginning of the Development for Cotai Strip where there would be 14 or more hotels/casinos.

    shame on HK Government and TWDC. They could have built much bigger Theme Park in the world at Pennys Bay, Hong Kong.

    by the way, Diana Ross was the special guest performing at the Grand Opening of Venetian Macau.









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    Re: How is the park going to compete against Ocean Park

    I think Venetian Macau will fail because it is too big. Largest casino in Asia?? HA! How are they going to recover the cost of all that? With their repetition from their Las Vegas property they should start small with a small scale clone of their signature gondola ride, and with attractions like Venetian streetscape, frescoes, fountains and gold statues, that should be enough attract millions of people from China. And if they really want attract chinese customers, they should localize it, put more chinese style elements. If it proof popular then they can develope a phase 2 later on..... if it proofed popular.

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    Re: How is the park going to compete against Ocean Park

    Quote Originally Posted by wishyouwell View Post
    I think Venetian Macau will fail because it is too big. Largest casino in Asia?? HA! How are they going to recover the cost of all that? With their repetition from their Las Vegas property they should start small with a small scale clone of their signature gondola ride, and with attractions like Venetian streetscape, frescoes, fountains and gold statues, that should be enough attract millions of people from China. And if they really want attract chinese customers, they should localize it, put more chinese style elements. If it proof popular then they can develope a phase 2 later on..... if it proofed popular.
    Their Tactic is to Swamp the competition.

    Build their hotels/casinos/resorts as big as possible. Build them as many as possible. Build them as grand as possible. Build them as luxury as possible....etc.

    I am sure Chinese want to see something exotic, something similar to Las Vegas has been doing. (Paris, Venetian, etc....)

    Macao used to be a portuguese colony, Mainland Chinese tourists would expect something different from what they used to see back in Mainland China.

    I myself wouldn't want to see small-scale version of anything. LOL

    at least they (Venetian Macau) got one more client, that's me!!

    HKDL is a good example of small-scale version of MK.

    time will tell who is going to fail first.

    The Cheap? The Ulgy? The Pretty? The Expensive? The Most Grand? The Smallest? The Biggest?
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    Re: How is the park going to compete against Ocean Park

    Macau is allowing the casinos to have a lot of competition. The Venetian is Sheldon Adelson's idea of defeating Steve Wynn and Stanley Ho to win more business. It is basically a huge theme park with hotel, shopping, casino, exhibition centre, sports arena and a theatre all built in.

    Anyway I digress, I still think HKDL has a lot of potential, I just hope the opening of the Venetian will help Disney executives realize what the Chinese public really want from the Americans. Big, lavish, no expenses spared mega resorts.

    HKDL has so much potential to be one of the best resorts in Asia, it just needs proper expansion and planning. It can get there but Disney has to invest intelligently.

    Oh, I realized one thing recently: you cannot take a train from Asia World Expo to HKDL without going to Tsing Yi MTR station to change train first. Isn't that kind of stupid? If there were people attending exhibitions and leave their families at HKDL, then they will have to go a long way round to reach their families, after they have finished at Asia World Expo (unless they take a bus). Couldn't the Airport train just make a stop at Sunny Bay?

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    Re: How is the park going to compete against Ocean Park

    Bring in more competition !

    Just like what Macau is doing.

    I would suggest HK Government to allow at least one more operator to setup another Theme Park in Hong Kong. One major problem with HKDL is under-investment. another problem is word of mouth. Situation will get worse at HKDL when people keep talking with each others back in Mainland China that HKDL is too small, nothing to see, not enough to spend a day etc....
    I expect more tourists flocking to Macau for those increasing number of Integrated Resorts along Cotai Strip.

    Healthy Competition is a good thing. If you don't improve or invest enough, others will snatch the opportunity. Invite Universal Studio to come to Hong Kong, give them some incentives to directly compete with Hong Kong Disneyland! Universal Hong Kong, Hong Kong Disneyland and Hong Kong Ocean Park would be an ideal combination.

    With Macao transforming itself into Asia's Las Vegas, Hong Kong should strengthen its tourism infrastructure to complement Macao (or vice versa) and make Hong Kong-Macao(or Macau) a Must See Destination in Asia.

    Time is ripe for Hong Kong to reconsider setting up Casinos. Since so many Hongkongers are going to macao to gamble, why not retain some of them at Hong Kong? Perhaps a couple of resorts with casino would be enough for Hong Kong.
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    Re: How is the park going to compete against Ocean Park

    Universal Studios and Disneylands co-exist in Orlando and LA, so I guess it might be possible. But I doubt Disney will welcome them at Penny's Bay. If I were in power, then I would have them build the entire resort near the airport to become part of SkyCity & Asia World Expo. That will almost drive Disney out of business and Disney will have to work really hard to catch up.

    But Donald Tsang only mentioned that he wants HK to be the Asian Financial centre that can rival New York and London (so he is actually taking on Tokyo I guess). I don't remember any theme parks in these two cities.

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