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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Your dress code issue was pretty ridiculous, IMO. On almost every cruise it is expected to dress up for dinner. That is one of my favorite parts about cruising. We have used Celebrity Cruises a couple of times and they require formal attire on 3 nights. I love this and wish the days of the tux were still around. Nothing like putting on my tuxedo and escorting my wife to the dining room for a nice, romantic dinner. And Disney would be the perfect atmosphere for this type of formality, similar to V & A at WDW.

    If I saw someone sitting next to us in jeans and tee-shirt, I'd probably throw their empty Coors Lite can at them.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinYee
    Forgot to include this in my last post. Such research is WORK. .

    OMG. You are so right, Kevin! God forbid that a reviewer actually do a bit of research before taking on the project. Better to write reviews based on your experience and uninformed expectations only.

    When we went on our Disney cruise, My daughter spent hours and hours researching it.... for FUN! Poor, kid. Evidently she was unaware that what she called anxious anticipation for her Disney experience, she should have thought of it as work.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxdad
    OMG. You are so right, Kevin! God forbid that a reviewer actually do a bit of research before taking on the project. Better to write reviews based on your experience and uninformed expectations only.
    Sarcasm, I take it?

    That aside, indeed it was my goal to write a review based on my experience. It is a review, after all. I think I'm starting to talk in circles.
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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Quote Originally Posted by suttytx

    If I saw someone sitting next to us in jeans and tee-shirt, I'd probably throw their empty Coors Lite can at them.

    Probably?! Probably?! You DID!!


    I'm sending you the doctor's bill.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Just got this correction in from David Smith, Disney Archivist, in reference to the painted sign honoring someone named David R. Smith:

    There is another David R. Smith, who works for WDI in Florida. He was one of those in charge of the original build out of Castaway Cay.
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    “The press [should be] a watchdog. Not an attack dog. Not a lapdog. A watchdog. Now, a watchdog can't be right all the time. He doesn't bark only when he sees or smells something that's dangerous. A good watchdog barks at things that are suspicious.” – Dan Rather

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    In regards to the parking cost at Port Canaveral. Disney does not own the parking lot at the port, the port owns it. $12 a day is not that much more than what is being charged at Disney World, Sea World or Universal ($9-10 a day). parking at The Port of Miami is probably even higher. You said in the article that there was free buses from Orlando, I have not heard of that, but maybe you should have taken one of them.

    I have been on 7 cruises (none were Disney) and I don't find the cost that high. Yes Disney's prices may be higher, but at the same time they are still filling the ships. If they had more ships (like Carnival) maybe the prices would come down. There are disounts out there, just gotta find them. A Carnival Cruise is cheaper than Royal Caribbean, which is Cheaper than Princess Cruises, which is cheaper than Cunard. So if you don't like the cost of the Disney Cruise Line, Cruise one more in your price range.

    The dress code, part of the fun of the cruise was getting dressed up at night, even if it was a polo shirt and dockers. You are in shorts and t-shirts all day long in the hot sun, get dressed a little in the evening. On a ship you are basically going out on the town. This is common on all cruise lines except maybe the Windjammer Barefoot Cruises.

    In regards to other costs (video games, drinks etc) that's all standard practice on any cruise ship. Just because it's Disney doesn't mean it has to be given away.

    Sorry you had a bad time, but like everyone else, a little homework and common sense, would have helped you out. Why does everyone think that Disney has to spell out everything in minute detail?

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Sorry, Kevin, but you are going to be pounded on this one by lots of us. You didn't do your research. You had a preconceived notion of what a cruise should be, based upon no knowledge of what a cruise actually is, and when the actual cruise didn't add up, you blamed DCL.

    Come on? No shore excursions to exotic locations? That's what a cruise is. It's a giant, luxury hotel, where every morning you wake up, you're in a new location.

    A roller coaster around the outside of the boat? Since when is Disney only about rides? It's about families spending time together. It's about entertainment.

    Having to pay for games and drinks? Really? I guess I missed all the free stuff when I paid high ticket prices at WDW.

    Thinking you can dress in park attire at dinner on a cruise ship? Wow! You didn't do any research at all, did you? A lot of the fun is dressing up, making friends with your tablemates at dinner, enjoying "Fine Dining", new dishes, and all you can eat. Would you expect to wear shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops to dinner at Victoria and Alberts at the Grand Floridian? Again, you didn't study up on the rotational dining, did you?

    I would agree that there is no reason to get a high catagory room. We always take a catagory 9, on deck 2, with a large porthole. We've never considered a balcony worth the extra money.

    The cost is high, but man, don't try to compare DCL with Carnival, RC or any others. DCL outclasses most every other cruise line. I would make a guess that if you take another cruise on a different cruise line, you would hear yourself saying, "Man, this ain't like DCL treated me". That's precisely the reason we always return to DCL. We are treated like royalty.

    Your complaints about DCL don't so much point out weaknesses on their part, as unrealistic expectations and failure to prepare on your part. Sorry you didn't enjoy your cruise.

    It's kinda like what happened at work with my co-worker. He went to Disney for one day without telling me, and chose to visit Epcot as his only park. He complained that "Epcot Sucks". I told him that he should have mentioned it to me, and knowing him, I would have suggested any other park for him but Epcot. It's not that Epcot sucks. It's that he didn't do any research before deciding on a park. If he had asked the certified Disney freak sitting next to him for advise, he would have enjoyed his trip.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Oh, and another thing . . .

    Just kidding. double post. sorry!

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Quote Originally Posted by Randman
    Sorry, Kevin, but you are going to be pounded on this one by lots of us.
    Many of the emails I'm getting today are by people who appreciate the blunt review, and several of them have volunteered that they've never cruised before. So the reaction isn't entirely one-sided.
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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Quote Originally Posted by migo
    Probably?! Probably?! You DID!!


    I'm sending you the doctor's bill.
    Sorry about that. It was your T-shirt that read "Free mustache rides" that sent me over the edge.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Quote Originally Posted by suttytx
    Sorry about that. It was your T-shirt that read "Free mustache rides" that sent me over the edge.

    Your words hurt me.



    You told me you loved that shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Club 33
    Yes, because its sponsored by Kodak. Most Disney rides have a sponsor of some sort, and in return for their sponsorship they get some form of advertising. This is litterally how its been since day one. The Mansanto Adventure Thru Inner Space. The General Electric Carousel of Progress. Star Tours presented by Energizer Indiana Jones Adventure presented by AT&T. Space Mountain sponsored by FedEx. The Enchanted Tiki Room presented by Dole (and they even sell Dole Pinnaple treats right in the ride! Oh the advertising! ). Autopia Presentied by Chevron. I could go on and on.

    However seeing these advertisements in the park does not constitute a "Hard Sell" any more then a billboard on the freeway.
    But driving a road without a constant barrage of billboards is much more pleasant than the alternative, just as listening to a non-commercial radio station is more pleasant than a load of ads every 10 minutes (pledge drives excluded of course).

    My first adult visit to DL made me realize that the place has everything I love AND hate about this country. Top of the hate category is the constant selling, marketing and advertising. I'm fully aware of the history of the parks and the sponsorship of attractions, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Your list really just emphasises my point. You can add the fact that you must go through a shop to exit many attractions. Trying to sell you something is constant in Disney parks, as well as every where else in this country, which is why Kevin's statement was so absurd. I've never been able to reconcile all of it with the idea of escaping the real world once you're within the berm.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    I haven't been on a Disney cruise yet but hope to soon, although I did go on a Royal Caribbean one years back. Some of the stuff that Kevin encountered is the same as what I saw on RC, especially being offered alcoholic drinks before we've even left the docks -- heck, before I've even found my cabin! But I was with other first-timers in a group, and so we had been warned beforehand about things like attire for the dinners. I normally can't stand wearing a suit, but it was kinda nice getting dressed up for dinner and having good food, instead of just hitting the casual buffet.


    Thanks for the all the info on DCL!

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    When I took mother on our DCL cruise last year, she had the hardest time trying to find something appropriate to wear. She has a hard time fitting into anything smaller than a mumu.

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    Re: 7/13: Setting Sail

    Stinky, if your mother is a very large woman, and isn't comfortable out in public in a setting where she can't wear her mumu's, you can always (next time) have your food brought to your room. Just an idea.

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