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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by localdisnyfan View Post
    Thanks for your great articles, Kevin. I must say, those new trash cans are hideous, and it makes you wonder how much money they are saving by cutting corners like this. The rivets and detail are what give the old cans a bit of class, whereas the new ones would fit better in a hospital on a military base. There's declining by degrees and then there's falling off a cliff.
    I've seen this happen with the trash cans before. I hope it's the same thing:

    They buy a LOT of trash cans all at once, to replace aging cans. They arrive with a basic, plain paint job. Then Central Shops takes them, 20-30 at a time and puts the finishing touches on them. As they finish a batch, they swap them out for some that are on-stage. Eventually, they return to the show quality we expect.

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by giantsno1 View Post
    We will be making our first trip to Disneyworld next October and can anybody tell me how well there transit system runs, Im asking because our group will be staying in 2 different hotels in the rewsort area( wilderness lodge and Pop century)
    Wilderness Lodge has bus service to each park and watercraft service to MK until about 1 hour after park close. About 1.5 hours after the Magic Kingdom closes, WL buses go to TTC. Buses run only between resorts and parks.

    To get to Downtown Disney, Pleasure Island, etc. you must connect through a resort. These run until 2:15am.

    Pop Century has only bus service.

    You can travel between parks by bus, watercraft or monorail, depending on where you start. If you are at MK, you must go to TTC first to visit another park. At the MK, all Disney resort transportation is at the MK.

    Is that enough to get you started?

    Oh, and don't trust cast members at resorts or inside the park to give you transportation advice. Seek a monorail, watercraft or bus cast member. Please.

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianGuy View Post
    .. start to finish in that ride. The host/hostess may as well not even been present." (That would be a BIG savings!)
    Not as much of a savings you might think. hehe

    - I always enjoyed the monorail messages but this time around they were heavily mixed up with some "Stitch" messaging that was most confusing. Ironically besides being UTTERLY too loud, it was also completely impossible to comprehend. In the end, my friends (again new to Disney) suggested we avoid the monorail as much as possible because riding it was just too annoying. I tried to explain that it didn't used to be like that ...
    They cram so much advertising into the spiel now that guests don't even hear it any more. Many times riding the monorail, it would come to a stop, the driver would make an announcement stating why, and then a few people would say "Hey, why are we stopped?"

    Also, the pilot no longer has control over the recordings. There are little pucks installed along the beam to trigger various spiels. This is what causes them to run together. If the system is cycling fast, then the spiels overrun one another.

    Late at night when ridership is down, there aren't as many bodies to absorb/drown out the audio, so it seems painfully loud. With the old announcement system, we would simply stop playing it. Most of it was no longer applicable anyway. (Why refer guests to a park that is closed?) So pilots would make live announcements instead.

    I suggested some time ago that if they can't cut down on the ads, at least use two voices. Say, a man's voice for the advertising and a woman's voice for the safety information and such. You listen to your mother, right?

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by whimmel View Post
    To get to Downtown Disney, Pleasure Island, etc. you must connect through a resort. These run until 2:15am.
    In the interest of clarity, I'm sure you meant to get from a PARK to Downtown Disney, PI, etc., you must connect through a resort. Don't want to confuse the newbies!

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by danyoung View Post
    In the interest of clarity, I'm sure you meant to get from a PARK to Downtown Disney, PI, etc., you must connect through a resort. Don't want to confuse the newbies!
    Thanks. Perhaps "connect" wasn't a great word once I broke that out of the preceding paragraph. :-) If you're already at a resort, then you don't need to connect through one.

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    It is always funny when people accuse you of being a fanboy with no life or you go to the parks just to find something wrong with the place. I love going to WDW. One of the reason I took a job down here in the Tampa Bay area is the fact that I would have 9 parks within an 1 1/2 hours drive. I have been going to WDW for over 20 years now and the quality has gone down. I am sick of hearing excuses from some people or people complaining that we are being negative when we point out bad show. Disney used to pride itself in pointing out how important show was to them. They pointed out how they would start at one end of Main Street and repaint it until the reached the end and then they would start again. They used to replace bulbs before they burned out. You want an example of bad show just walk the Q of Buzz Lightyear. There is paint peeling and cracked holes in the wall that has been there for months. This is not rotting wood or water stains on the Skyway building this is the Q of a major ride. The problem with WDW management is sometimes the only way the will fix things is if they are publicly exposed for everyone to see.
    Now do I think guests are part of the problem now? Yes, they are. The strollers have gotten completely out of hand. Used to be a stroller was just big enough to push your child around. These supersize strollers can carry your child, toys, clothes, snacks, a drug store, a frig, etc. You get the point. Add in the ECV and you have gridlock whenever the parks get busy. And don't get me started about the people who don't pay attn. where they are going or just expect you to move out of their way.
    Then there are the rude guest. One of the things I love about WDW is all the nighttime spectaculars i.e. Wishes, Fantasmic, Illuminations. Remember when people would just watch these shows? Well, now it seems half the time people feel the need to yap their trap throughout the whole frickin show. That is not only incredibly rude but annoying as hell to the people around you. Heck, I was at La Nouba one time and had to tell people behind us to shut up and this was at a show that's almost $100 a ticket! Where did common courtesy go?
    However, WDW is still one of the few places left where people let there guard down. I can't count how many times I have had conversations with absolute strangers that would have never occurred in the real world. WDW is still a very magical place but the cracks are really starting to show esp in the Magic Kingdom. I just hope things turn around.
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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by pussnboots View Post
    God, what a waste.
    How about 92%? 95%?
    I guess I'll have to make the beautiful 4-hour drive across the desert and go to Vegas if I want to see real dedication to impressive light displays. Hey, Vegas also has great food deals, a monorail. . .VIVA LAS VEGAS!

    Then again, Disney doesn't have people pushing porn into my face at intersections.

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    Kevin, if you think the broken lights on Main Street are bad check out the lights on the Grand Floridian at night. Wow, and this is suppose to be thier premier hotel.

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by jcruise86 View Post
    How about 92%? 95%?
    I guess I'll have to make the beautiful 4-hour drive across the desert and go to Vegas if I want to see real dedication to impressive light displays. Hey, Vegas also has great food deals, a monorail. . .VIVA LAS VEGAS!
    To be fair, I do my own little declining by (much larger) degrees at Strip resorts on a moderately-trafficed blog. I've seen everything from burnt out lettering on a building at Caesars (that didn't disappear for WEEKS) to entire buildings that didn't turn on. I also see plenty of bad service.

    That's part of the reason I think living in the area is crucial to seeing this stuff. The facades and the people show the cracks after you've been exposed to it enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania View Post
    To be fair, I do my own little declining by (much larger) degrees at Strip resorts on a moderately-trafficed blog. I've seen everything from burnt out lettering on a building at Caesars (that didn't disappear for WEEKS) to entire buildings that didn't turn on. I also see plenty of bad service.

    That's part of the reason I think living in the area is crucial to seeing this stuff. The facades and the people show the cracks after you've been exposed to it enough.
    As is often the case, I stand corrected.

    I saw a Travel Channel show on Vegas that showed their method of diligently replacing lights. It seemed impressive, and I didn't notice burned-out bulbs in my last visit, but that was a couple years ago. Maybe they've changed. I'll find out in about two weeks!

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    I'm on my third day at WDW and have been paying special attention to maintenance. Overall, I think it's excellent--certainly much better than around 2000 when there were massive problems such as peeling paint and giant hunks of thatch coming of the Swiss Family Treehouse exposing the tarpaper underneath. Sure there are still problems, but you really have to go looking for them.

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?

    ok.. figured it out..

    they are painted the way they were in most casses.. but they are missing one item...

    Old Fantasy:


    New Fantasy:


    no emblem on them at all.. i don't know what they have planned for some of the ones that were attraction specific...

    but i know many many trashcans are switched out now...

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    I'm a season passholder, who lives in TN. I believe I was at WDW five different weeks in 2006. It is definitely a magical place to me - everytime I'm there I find myself planning another trip back at a later time. I've noticed many of the things you point out, and find some of the things I've noticed so un-Disney-like. ....like the gum on the ride ques and the flames not being on prior to Illuminations. You point out a lot of minor details which really are the "finesse" that makes Disney spectacular. Your site should be required reading for Disney Management. I only say that because I love Disney and truly love that feeling of being in a "magical resort."

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    Re: 1/4: Happy New Year?


    "Imagination is more important than knowledge..."
    -Albert Einstein

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