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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    I still maintain the new park will be a water park for a while at least.



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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    Again, maybe it was because October was my first ever visit to WDW and that I was so overwhelmed by the SIZE of everything, I didn't see that much stuff that needed repairing (aside from Haunted Mansion).

    It will be interesting to see if we start noticing stuff when we go back in May.
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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    great update! Cant wait for those castle effects! rad!

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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    What is this about Tony Baxter's "plans to create hyper-themed and long-playing" attractions. I've never heard about these. What should I think of this - PotC-style rides, or what? Are there any known concepts?
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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thriller View Post
    What is this about Tony Baxter's "plans to create hyper-themed and long-playing" attractions. I've never heard about these. What should I think of this - PotC-style rides, or what? Are there any known concepts?
    Al actually spoke about this years ago when the idea for the boutique park first came up (in the days before 9/11 ruined the travel industry). Then all talk on a new park went dark until now. The idea is that rather than building high capacity rides which last for just a short period of time (as they do now), they would create small capacity attractions which might combine a number of elements including personal interaction and a complete story telling experience. When you build a park that only admits 5,000 people per day, you don't need to build as many attractions and they can last much longer and have a MUCH lower capacity. As wonderful as that may sound on paper, think about the risk. What if people don't like a certain attraction that cost millions to build and which lasts for 40 minutes? The guest is stuck and so is the park. Better to hate a Superstar Limo which is only one of dozens of attractions than to hate a Super-Mega-Attraction which is only one of a small number of offerings.

    They can build super exclusive hotels and restaurants all they want, but should make the parks enjoyable for all. Enough with the class-ism. WDI forgets that Walt fought hard to keep Disneyland affordable so that all could come and enjoy.

    I'm holding out for a full fledged park of the Tokyo Disney Sea scale, budget, and attention to detail. Anything less will fail to impress.
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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Quote Originally Posted by sir clinksalot View Post
    Again, maybe it was because October was my first ever visit to WDW and that I was so overwhelmed by the SIZE of everything, I didn't see that much stuff that needed repairing (aside from Haunted Mansion).

    It will be interesting to see if we start noticing stuff when we go back in May.
    WDW is a great place and it is by no means being horribly treated, but I am in each park many times a week and notice a lot of the stuff that I feel should be painted or fixed. I would like for John Lasseter to come to Florida and spend some time in each Theme Park and sit with the management here and tell them what he feels should be done. I also want the rides to get extensive rehabs like in Disneyland. Like I said before Space Mountain really needs attention and I believe it should be closed for possibly a year if necessary.

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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dustysage View Post
    The idea is that rather than building high capacity rides which last for just a short period of time (as they do now), they would create small capacity attractions which might combine a number of elements including personal interaction and a complete story telling experience. When you build a park that only admits 5,000 people per day, you don't need to build as many attractions and they can last much longer and have a MUCH lower capacity.
    DisneyQuest anyone? See the similarities?

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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Quote Originally Posted by Thriller View Post
    What is this about Tony Baxter's "plans to create hyper-themed and long-playing" attractions. I've never heard about these. What should I think of this - PotC-style rides, or what? Are there any known concepts?
    Hello, Tony's "hyper themed and long playing" attraction concept is - if remember it well - a great idea. We all feel that "when it's good, it's always too short" whether it's a 2 minutes Peter Pan dark ride, a 4 and a half min Indiana Jones adventure or a 10 minutes POTC flume ride . So, more than doing only a 5 minute ride of indiana jones, for instance, the idea would be to have a whole "indiana jones" experience , going from one IJ attraction to another , or a IJ show , etc...so instead it last 5 minutes , it will last one hour or more ( i took indiana jones just as an example, but it could be anything, think about a big star wars experience, for instance ). That's what i remember, hope i'm right. If not, please forgive me, Tony!

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    I thought Pressler was gone? The Boutique store plain and simple sucks. What a waste of land.
    I like the new changes to Grizzly River. It will be a new experience every time. I didn't realize that ride was supposed to be for the young and extreme. comical.

    I too want a park that has some attention to detail and leaves me wanting to go back for more.
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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Great work, Al.

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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    You know, the subs wouldn't be having staffing issues if landlock weren't in place. I would join the subs opening crew in a heartbeat if it didn't mean losing knowledge on all my Adventureland attractions, as I've told my friends over there who've asked me to apply. There's just nothing else in Tomorrowland that even remotely interests me, especially since I've seen nearly everyone who went over for subs get trained on Autopia, which is eternally understaffed because it is the seventh circle of hell. While I would absolutely love to open an attraction as an RO and this is probably the only chance I'd get, it's not worth transferring for.

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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    Quote Originally Posted by loaloa View Post
    Hello, Tony's "hyper themed and long playing" attraction concept is - if remember it well - a great idea. We all feel that "when it's good, it's always too short" whether it's a 2 minutes Peter Pan dark ride, a 4 and a half min Indiana Jones adventure or a 10 minutes POTC flume ride . So, more than doing only a 5 minute ride of indiana jones, for instance, the idea would be to have a whole "indiana jones" experience , going from one IJ attraction to another , or a IJ show , etc...so instead it last 5 minutes , it will last one hour or more ( i took indiana jones just as an example, but it could be anything, think about a big star wars experience, for instance ). That's what i remember, hope i'm right. If not, please forgive me, Tony!
    Sounds more like a Marc Davis project (WRE). But don't wake him from his eternal slumber and tell him.

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    Yet again, another fabulous update! Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    And we're thinking of putting a boat ride in Paradise Bay why?
    Why would anyone want to float around in that puddle? Unlike DL's RoA where the Twain, Columbia and cannoes provide a view of area's that are not otherwise visable, such as the indian village, a boat trip around PB would have nothing new to offer, unless some real changes are made. As it stands right now a trip around PB would rate somewhere below the Motorboat Cruise and just above the Phantom Boats, probably at the same level as WDW MK's Swan Boats.
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    Re: 3/27: Super-Mega-Colossal!

    I presume it will be low capacity, but I think you will get the same type of turnout as the Main Street vehicles.

    But it will add motion to the lake, something that is lacking throughout the park.

    So most of us will have to thank those who use the boats (similar to those who ride the Canoes).

    But then, I might find it to be a good place to get some unique angles for photos...
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