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    Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Did you hear the news? The Supreme Justices decision to allow private business owners to seize privat property has now bitten them in the butt!!!

    Apparently, a man is launching a campaign in which he is trying to take Justic David Souters house that he grew up in and still lives in and wants to turn it into a bed and breakfast/hotel.

    Other people are trying to get Justice Stephen Breyer’s vacation house and turn that into a park.

    What do you guys think of this?

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    hahahaha!!! serves them right!
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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Quote Originally Posted by Disney Wrassler
    Did you hear the news? The Supreme Justices decision to allow private business owners to seize privat property has now bitten them in the butt!!!

    Apparently, a man is launching a campaign in which he is trying to take Justic David Souters house that he grew up in and still lives in and wants to turn it into a bed and breakfast/hotel.

    Other people are trying to get Justice Stephen Breyer’s vacation house and turn that into a park.

    What do you guys think of this?
    It serves the Supreme Phony right. These Justices are nothing more than lawyers that have recieved a promotion. They are appointed for life, are answerable to nobody, as well as infringe upon the power and rights of our two elected branches of federal government, and states and individuals. Their wealth (since birth) has allowed them to live in a fantasyland, above the rest of us. Therefore, none of their decisions have ever affected them directly.

    Thomas Jefferson criticized the hell out of these all-powerful God-like Kings and Queens throughout his public service career. They even consider themselves greater than the Constitution itself. Political scientists argue that the third branch of government (judicial) should be appointed (and for life) in order to be different than the other two. I say tie all of these crooked (sometimes senile), glorified lawyers to an anchore and toss them into the sea. THEY SUCK!!!
    Last edited by Ride Warrior; 08-28-2005 at 07:52 AM.

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    They should be elected, then they would have to be accountable for their actions!


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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    It just proves... Karma is real and will bite you when needed!!!!




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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Quote Originally Posted by penguinsoda
    It just proves... Karma is real and will bite you when needed!!!!
    I couldn't have put in any better.
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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Quote Originally Posted by Ride Warrior
    They are appointed for life,
    True.

    are answerable to nobody
    That's the idea. To have an arm of power that is beholden the law instead of the wishes of the people. Judges aren't supposed to be elected by the public because then they just have to take the most popular opinion, which may not always be the one that most supports the spirit of the Constitution.

    Think about it this way: I think we all don't think we'll ever have a true Nazi regime running country. Thank heavens. But, in the event that it did, and everyone from the general public to the lawmakers in Congress wanted to make it legal to have concentration camps, the Supreme Court can go against the grain and strike down any legislation for the camps as unconstitutional.

    as well as infringe upon the power and rights of our two elected branches of federal government
    No. This is partisan rhetoric that's been appearing more and more lately. The balance of power is always a triangle. The triangle works like this:

    The President cannot make a law, only Congress can make laws
    If Congress makes a law, it can't pass without the President's support
    If the law is illegal by established law, the Supreme Court can kill it.
    Like the President, the Supreme Court can't make laws, only interpret existing ones.

    Their wealth (since birth) has allowed them to live in a fantasyland, above the rest of us.
    The same can be said for 60% of politicians. The other 40% are also wealthy, but grew up poor and like to use that in their campaigns for everything it's worth.

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    True.



    That's the idea. To have an arm of power that is beholden the law instead of the wishes of the people. Judges aren't supposed to be elected by the public because then they just have to take the most popular opinion, which may not always be the one that most supports the spirit of the Constitution.
    Yeah Yeah Yeah! This same cheesy rhetoric is hurled every time that somebody dares to criticize the judicial imperial monarchy. Fact is that the power and design of the Supreme Court represents a compromise reached by the Founding Fathers, who didn't realize at the time how out of touch, disfunctional and crooked it would become.

    The Supreme lawyers have both "interpreted" the Constitution and legislated new laws that have hurt the average law-abiding, good citizen for the past couple of centuries - especially in the past several decades. This is exactly why the Supremes are in trouble over their decision to allow local governments to profiteer off of eminent domain at the expense of property owners, aka The People.

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    Think about it this way: I think we all don't think we'll ever have a true Nazi regime running country. Thank heavens. But, in the event that it did, and everyone from the general public to the lawmakers in Congress wanted to make it legal to have concentration camps, the Supreme Court can go against the grain and strike down any legislation for the camps as unconstitutional.
    Think about it this way: Throughout the course of our nation's history, presidents, cabinet members, legislators (from both sides of Congress), and other federal leaders have each been subject to repremands, corrective actions, and they have been removed from office. Not once has a Justice (glorified lawyer) ever faced justice for questionable or illegal activity.

    Any group of people who are that "perfect" are obviously above the law, and not held in balance by the system of checks that was, by intent established for all three branches. Therefore, they cannot be trusted for a DAMN thing. If things keep going the way they are, the Supremes will eventually turn all of America into a concentration camp.
    Last edited by Ride Warrior; 08-30-2005 at 11:12 PM.

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania

    No. This is partisan rhetoric that's been appearing more and more lately. The balance of power is always a triangle. The triangle works like this:

    The President cannot make a law, only Congress can make laws
    If Congress makes a law, it can't pass without the President's support
    If the law is illegal by established law, the Supreme Court can kill it.
    Like the President, the Supreme Court can't make laws, only interpret existing ones.
    Too many times the Supreme Monarchy has overturned fair federal and state laws. It almost always goes against the wishes of the majority in favor of the minority. If you think this not corrupt, MickeyMania, you are whistling in the wind - and likely doing something else in the wind as well.

    Eache general federal election, the president should generate potential Supreme Court appointments while the Congress selects it's own appointments to match those of the president. Then, out of these choices, "The People" should elect whom they desire. This would eliminate filibusters, and limit partisan politics.

    The Constitution is a living instrument, kept alive by the amendment process - and it does not belong to the Supreme Court (lawyers). Always remember that the authors will always and forever be more important than the interpreters -

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    The same can be said for 60% of politicians. The other 40% are also wealthy, but grew up poor and like to use that in their campaigns for everything it's worth.
    The Justices are also politicians - Supreme politicians. These lawyers were each and every one born fabulously weathy, and most have been unfit to rule from their judicial thrown - liberals and conservatives alike. The People are entitled to a moderate, fair and balanced system of justice that sometimes represents the interests of minority over the majority, but not practically all the freakin' time!

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    uh-oh, cat fight...

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    This may be an unpopular opinion, but I agree with the supreme courts decision. However, I believe that having the city take someones private property should only be used as a last result, plus there should be compensation for the victims.

    I am sure you are all aware that eminent domain has been around for sometime for public interest (schools/roads/parks). This new decision is for economic purposes. (like kicking out a group of residents to build a local wal mart)

    Sometimes, the only way to revitalize a city and ensure a higher quality of life is to bring life back into the local economy. This can improve city infrastructure and create jobs.

    Shouldn't the rights of the many overpower the individual? Even when the individual is fairly compensated and still has the right to be apart of the bigger picture?

    Just a look at the other side of the story....

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    yes but should people be kicked out of a house their family has been living in for generations? Should places of worship be closed so the government can get money?

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    Spalding: then there is an issue of what constitutes "fairly compensated". Do you honestly believe these people will receive market value for their home? Even if they do, market value can be negatively influenced well in advance when a city first plans to take over homes in an area, so people are less likely to want to buy those homes. How do you fairly compensate forcing people to take days out of their lives to move? How do you fairly compensate people for a home that has been in their family for generations, and is, to them, priceless?

    I understand the use of eminent domain for roads, etc. Because those are absolutely necessary. I think it's absurd for commercial interests. Of, if one must strike a compromise, I think at least half the residents in an affected area must willingly move (through financial incentives offered by the government body that wants them gone) before eminent domain could be used to move the rest. I think that covers the "blight" quite well, because, let's be honest, people in a truly blighted area will be more willing to take the money and go, whereas people in a nice area are more likely to protest.

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    Re: Supreme Justices get a dose of their own medicine

    I object: Says the guy who never went to law school! People are throwing around the word lawyer as if it is an end all be all bad word to describe immorality and injustice.

    Webster's dictionary defines a lawyer as follows:
    Main Entry: law&#183;yer
    Pronunciation: 'lo-y&r, 'loi-&r
    Function: noun
    : one whose profession is to conduct lawsuits for clients or to advise as to legal rights and obligations in other matters.

    I believe it is prudent to point out that a lawyer need not practice in a court of law but can advise, meaning he or she is far more familar with the law than that of the average citizen. Therfore it is prudent that these people who study law be the ones who rise to the posistion of supreme court justice because of a long standing history of well earned judgement.

    Electing these people from the people opens us up to lobyists and the same factors which are so rapidly erroding the structure of the other two branchs of government at such an incredible rate of immorality and decay. Opinions are bought and sold by corperations and we must have at least one check/balance in place that is seemingly beyond the grasp of that greed and coruption.

    If I had it my way we would have an oligarchy- where only the most intellegent would be the only ones available for election, you'd have to pass an IQ test and have a Masters in something related to governement.

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