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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    I'm not blaming Disney or security for this. They do try their best I'm sure and people generally looking for something to blame instead of looking at the actual situation and how we actually do affect others is why this continues.

    Things will happen, but people are expecting DL to have robotic control over everything. We don't need to be patted down, escorted to the park, checked by every pocket; instead, people need to be more aware of their own actions. I'm kind of glad Disney treats it's guest like guest instead of criminals, as I'm hoping they are aware (as OSHA pesters them a lot) that a few idiots shouldn't ruin the experience in general for guests. Bad things will happen, it's life.

    Complaining about how security didn't do their job is why we just get longer security lines and the same problems...


    Quote Originally Posted by ttintagel View Post
    "He said he was not aware guests were not allowed to bring guns inside the parks."

    WTF? Is he really so stupid he needs that spelled out for him? What possible reason could he have for needing a gun in an amusement park?
    I don't like what he did but it's not that hard to understand. Probably where he's from, guns might just be a norm or unfortunately a way of survival. It's funny how people think but thinking about how he might of seen things could help understand. I don't know him though, he could be just up to trouble. I'm glad no one was hurt or the gun was used for harmful intent.
    It is sad how some people's journey has lead them to always having to carry a gun to feel at ease, but it's the way it is. Common sense for some is a unknown for other people, he clearly wasn't thinking bringing a gun all the way through, despite whether he felt he should bring it or not.

    This was rare incident though so the need for signs in general seems pointless. Even with signs or metal detectors, no doubt someone will bring one in somehow. Should we hand out a list of rules to each guest or put metal detectors when entering each land?? Apparently, the conclusions to these human problems seem to head that way.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Hold on a sec, don't the parks each have a mandatory security baggage check area for this kind of thing? How in the world did a gun get overlooked?
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    The article said it slipped out of his back pocket.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Coasterjunkie View Post
    A loaded Cobra .380 caliber semiautomatic pistol was found on a ride at DAK. My question is why do people feel the need to bring a loaded weapon to a park like Disney? Maybe these people do need to leave their house if they're that insecure about their safety especially in a controlled environment like a theme park.

    Here's the link to the Orlando Sentinel story. Gun found on Walt Disney World ride in Animal Kingdom. - OrlandoSentinel.com
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Some people just like to exercise their right to carry and that's fine. They don't need to answer to anyone on why they carry it. He probably forgot it was there. It happens more than you think. I tell ya, those .380s are small enough to forget. Nice little guns, but they want to slip out of the hand while fired though.

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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneytwins View Post
    Disney's security had no fault, they rarely check pockets for contraband.
    I kind of think they can't. I mean they could if they wanted do, but its either they can't or they won't. To physically search guests with a pat down, well they have 3 choices. 1 - Search everyone, and take away from that sense of magic that Disney has provided for years. 2 - Only search random guests, and risk upsetting those that do get searched as they cry violation of privacy, or even cultural/racial bias or discrimination. Or 3 - search no one and keep it as it is. They've always wanted guests to feel comfortable when they approach their gates. It was only the events of 9/11 that caused bag checks to be a permanent fixture at the entrances of all Disney parks.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    He was just making sure that one way or another those dinosaurs were going extinct. Why else would he feel the need to load it with hollow point bullets?
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    I've seen a us marshalmtrynto get through security with his side arm before. Definite WTF moment. Anyways, I have no issues with conceal carry, but with that there are rules. I think this guy is definitely the dumb *** of the day.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Coastierox View Post
    I've seen a us marshalmtrynto get through security with his side arm before. Definite WTF moment. Anyways, I have no issues with conceal carry, but with that there are rules. I think this guy is definitely the dumb *** of the day.

    What rules did he violate? Disney's? Because last time i checked they had to follow the State of Florida's Laws furst which someone posted earlier That they need to have signs up stating that CCWs are not allowed on this property...

    That being said, not sure why he felt the need to exercise his right to carry there, but it is well within his rights as Disney didn't follow FL state law properly so he could still exercise his right...
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneymike View Post
    Doesn't AK serve alcohol?
    The alcohol prohibition only applies to those areas that actually serve alcohol. Therefore, Club 33 is a no CC by law whereas the queues, rides, shows, etc. are legally CC areas. Note I said LEGALLY, not LOGICALLY or SHOULD BE.

    I agree with most posters who state that Disney should definitely be a no CC zone. Disney needs to make that crystal clear. Signs at the gate designating the park a no CC zone are cheap and effective. Assuming everyone saw the notice on the website or assuming it is common sense that Disney parks are all no CC zones is foolish. As we are often reminded, common sense is in no way common.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    I agree, common sense is something that has to be taught these days.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Carrying is illegal in a bars. A theme park or regular restaurant is not considered a bar. Disney is already a no-cc zone. There is already a ridiculous law that states that everyone is forbidden to carry a gun around an establishment that has fireworks.

    When giving the mandatory concealed carry classes, they tell you that you are not to carry a gun in an area that specifically claims it's a no-carry area. Even though it's obvious that Disney doesn't want people carrying guns, posting signs wouldn't hurt. Maybe if that guy was reminded, he could've checked.

    Keep in mind that this guy had no malicious intent (although having his gun in a position to fall out was completely stupid). He went through the fees and all the legal mumbo jumbo in order to carry the gun LEGALLY.

    This guy is an idiot. It's like rule number one to hold your gun in a way that it doesn't slip out and get out of your possession. Some child could've got hurt. Makes the rest of us look bad. I hope they get this guy for being so irresponsible with his gun. He needs the wakeup call.
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    Re: Loaded Gun on DAK Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Disneytwins View Post
    We don't even know if it was intentional or not. The guy who had it could've been just an ordinary law-abiding person and was just too careless to check to see if he left his gun at home or in his or her car.
    i don't see how it is any better in either case if it was intentionally left or if he was too careless and forgot it was in his pocket...

    its danged irresponsible...

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