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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by calsig31 View Post
    Why leave a predator like Bryan William Anast on the streets any longer than needed? If they knew where he was, make the arrest there rather than have to track him down later. This wasn't a charge like an unpaid parking ticket, this guy is an accused child molester working at a Mecca for children.
    Then why wait until he got to work? They should have arrested him before he left his house.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    I hear they sell those kind of passes to the general public too. Perhaps they should do background checks on all annual passholders?
    This makes no sense. Annual passholders would not need to buy a cast member pass. They have a pass to get in already.

    However that is neither here nor there. Passholders do not have access to the dark nooks and crannies of the back stage areas where they have vantage points into the park from which they could secretly watch children. Passholders are not out in the public areas in Disneyland uniforms like a beacon of trust for lost children. Employees like Bryan William Anast are.

    Quote Originally Posted by DLFan1995 View Post
    Then why wait until he got to work? They should have arrested him before he left his house.
    If the arrest order didn’t come through until Bryan William Anast left for work, they wouldn’t be able to arrest him at his house. This was most likely the place in which he was located when the go ahead was given to arrest him.
    "You can cut me off from the civilized world. You can incarcerate me with two moronic cellmates. You can torture me with your thrice daily swill, but you cannot break the spirit of a Winchester. My voice shall be heard from this wilderness and I shall be delivered from this fetid and festering sewer."

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    You're working on the faulty assumption that more arrests = more problem employees. It may be, perhaps, that better Disney screening and lower tolerance for certain actions is leading to more arrests, making the park actually quite safer.
    Disney doesn't have as much to do with all of this as people appear to be thinking, before or after the arrests. In the case of the dry ice "bombs" Disney was only complicit in tolerating such activities in backstage areas, but when explosive devices go boom in guest areas, whatever the intention, somebody is going to call 911, not necessarily only Disney. What happens afterward is in our judicial system's hands, not Disney's. The same goes for the accused child molester who was just arrested--he allegedly (not that it's difficult to believe, given the child pornography they found in his home) committed the initial crimes years ago, they were more recently reported by the victim, and then he was arrested. What will happen to him now will ultimately depend on a jury and a judge. All Disney can do with any given employee is a background check of some sort and interviews when hiring, and then they can decide whether to fire the employee for conduct issues. Everything else is up to the individual in question and others.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJM View Post
    Now, I have no facts to point me in either direction, but it doesn't seem like you do either. As such, it'd be wise to throw out the insinuation that Disney is somehow more unsafe now. If you're going to say something like that, you should back it up with facts, even if it's anecdotal.
    There have been two arrests only about a month apart recently, which is somewhat of an eyebrow-raiser, although I'd hardly consider this enough of a pattern to suggest that it's anything more than a coincidence.
    Last edited by Robert Cook; 06-26-2013 at 10:44 PM.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikkiandtheMouse View Post
    i feel like this article is unfair to Disneyland.
    No "i feel" about it. It was ABSOLUTLEY unfair to Disneyland. It was a sensationalist headline to get people to tune in. If a 7-11 or employee had been arrested for hitting someone while driving drunk, you wouldn't see the headline "7-Eleven employee arrested for driving vehicular manslaughter". But you WOULD see "Disneyland employee arrested for driving vehicular manslaughter" if he worked for Disney.

    Aside from being his employer, it had nothing to do with the company or the park at all.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiversOfAmerica View Post
    Aside from being his employer, it had nothing to do with the company or the park at all.
    No, he was arrested at Disneyland. That is the difference. A Disney worker was hauled off his position and out of the park in cuffs. It's not something that happens everyday.

    While 7-11s are a dime a dozen and located on every street corner, there is only one Disneyland. That is what makes this high profile and newsworthy.
    "You can cut me off from the civilized world. You can incarcerate me with two moronic cellmates. You can torture me with your thrice daily swill, but you cannot break the spirit of a Winchester. My voice shall be heard from this wilderness and I shall be delivered from this fetid and festering sewer."

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by DCAfanatic View Post
    how about annual background checks , this employee was working at disneyland where there are tons of young guests and he was so close to our kids ,agh gives me the creeps!
    The unions would fight that.
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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    someone being arrested at their workplace happens more often than people think.

    the only reason that this is news is that it happened at Disneyland.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Malina View Post
    You're missing the point. The poster had said he wasn't going to be around kids in his job functions at DLR; I was pointing out that might not have been the case - and he would have had far more access and ability to go backstage, etc. than an AP.
    I don't think I missed the point at all. It is 100% true that as part of his "job functions" at Disneyland he did not interact with guests in the park.

    The fact that he had access to the park as a guest using his CM pass is inconsequential to the discussion. Many people have access to the park as guests via CM passes, Annual Passes, and many other forms of admission and what they do or do not do with those passes with regard to the legal issues involved shouldn't be part of this discussion and it was wrong to bring it up.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by calsig31 View Post
    This makes no sense. Annual passholders would not need to buy a cast member pass. They have a pass to get in already.
    If access to the park is enough justification to require extra scrutiny than it makes absolutely perfect sense (I don't actually believe that it's required - just exploring the logical conclusion of the thinking here).

    However that is neither here nor there. Passholders do not have access to the dark nooks and crannies of the back stage areas where they have vantage points into the park from which they could secretly watch children. Passholders are not out in the public areas in Disneyland uniforms like a beacon of trust for lost children. Employees like Bryan William Anast are.
    I sincerely doubt he had a position where he could just lounge around all day and stare at kids from secret hiding spots. He is probably union though so who knows.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Cook View Post
    There have been two arrests only about a month apart recently, which is somewhat of an eyebrow-raiser, although I'd hardly consider this enough of a pattern to suggest that it's anything more than a coincidence.
    Knowing how slow the legal system can be, I would even wager to guess that the investigation into this guy started before the bomber prank even happened.

    Just a big coincidence.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    Knowing how slow the legal system can be, I would even wager to guess that the investigation into this guy started before the bomber prank even happened.

    Just a big coincidence.
    The fact that the actual crimes were committed more than a decade apart in time would also suggest a coincidence, which is an understatement to say the least.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    actually , Liver, it's wrong to tell people what they can and cannot bring up here. Disagreement with a topic does not make it wrong.

    The fact remains that we have an (accusedL pedophile who took a job that gave him, by way of job perks, daily unlimited access to an area that has a high concentration of children...and he had far more knowledge of the park and backstage areas than the average guest. Past cases of this nature have shown that child predators often take jobs that give them access to kids in some way, even if their job functions don't directly involve dealing with kids...and this is another example.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Malina View Post
    The fact remains that we have an (accusedL pedophile who took a job that gave him, by way of job perks, daily unlimited access to an area that has a high concentration of children...and he had far more knowledge of the park and backstage areas than the average guest. Past cases of this nature have shown that child predators often take jobs that give them access to kids in some way, even if their job functions don't directly involve dealing with kids...and this is another example.
    And this is also why parents shouldn't let their guard down just because their at Disneyland.
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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Malina View Post
    actually , Liver, it's wrong to tell people what they can and cannot bring up here. Disagreement with a topic does not make it wrong.
    It's wrong to bring up because it serves no purpose other than fear mongering. He may or may not have had access (I say he didn't), but that doesn't mean he used it. Access is nothing.

    Just by sheer numbers alone, there are far more pedophiles and convicted sex offenders with Disneyland Annual passes that have access to the park than employees. Probably a deal more than employees since they do background checks on the employees. Of course this is all true, but its completely i irrelevant to what this guy did (and the discussion should be about what he did or did not do while at Disneyland rather than what he had access to. Changing the discussion into what ifs and slippery slopes really takes away from what he may have done.

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    Re: Another Disneyland Cast Member Arrested , Whats going on here?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    If access to the park is enough justification to require extra scrutiny than it makes absolutely perfect sense (I don't actually believe that it's required - just exploring the logical conclusion of the thinking here).
    If we are to assume that access to the park is enough, then it would be every park patron that should have a background check, not just passholders. Why single out just one segment of the park population, or is it possibly as a way to take a shot at the annual pass program? If anything, I would think the single day ticket users would be more of the ones to watch. If someone pays cash for a one day ticket, there is no record of the transaction and no way to trace the person.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    I sincerely doubt he had a position where he could just lounge around all day and stare at kids from secret hiding spots. He is probably union though so who knows.
    He wouldn’t have to do it all day. He could slip away for a few minutes here or there for his entertainment, or use his breaks.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    It's wrong to bring up because it serves no purpose other than fear mongering. He may or may not have had access (I say he didn't), but that doesn't mean he used it. Access is nothing.
    Actually, access is everything. Just because he hasn’t used it, would you want a predator like Bryan William Anast to remain in an environment where he had such access? Not using it does not mean that the potential is not there. There is a reason that people on the registered list are not allowed to get within a certain distance of children. Personally, it is a risk that I wouldn’t want to take.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLiver View Post
    Just by sheer numbers alone, there are far more pedophiles and convicted sex offenders with Disneyland Annual passes that have access to the park than employees.
    However, the Disneyland ticket holders are not there wearing Disney uniforms and name badges that make them appear as someone that a lost child could trust.
    "You can cut me off from the civilized world. You can incarcerate me with two moronic cellmates. You can torture me with your thrice daily swill, but you cannot break the spirit of a Winchester. My voice shall be heard from this wilderness and I shall be delivered from this fetid and festering sewer."

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