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Actually, Big Bear was mostly spared in the Old Fire. The fire was concentrated on the western edge of the mountain and affected communities around Lake Arrowhead and Running Springs.
Actually, Big Bear was mostly spared in the Old Fire. The fire was concentrated on the western edge of the mountain and affected communities around Lake Arrowhead and Running Springs.
Anything listed on the park maps as an attraction is fair game for inclusion in the Rally.
I cannot confirm nor deny the inclusion of any attraction in the Rally.
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Two or three months of white knuckleing it here, then it is on to hurricane season. At least some stupid crazy idion can't start a hurricane.
Excellent map! It really gives you a visual of where it actually is and what areas are threatened!Originally Posted by mamabot
I found a link that includes a map showing the estimated perimeter of the fire. The link states that the fire is moving northward and eastward. I hope the winds don't shift the fire westward.
http://www.rimoftheworld.net/columns...9fb8bd7edd0eb0
I'm glad that you're pretty much out of dander, pengers. Just the same, let's hope that the winds keep pushing the fire away from you. They must have used an extensive amount of water in the battle, Regarding your local fire department, I wonder where large volumes of water come from in a desert region.Morning update..
Looks like its closing in on 40,000 acres now. To answer RW's question, pretty much all over the high desert where I live is "rural."But seriously, yes, the area where the fire is burning in not densely populated. Even where the highest concentration of homes are, they are build usually on acreage, not lots.
I think so far they have lost some 40 homes and 80 vehicles but the injury count remains low, about 10 people and all injurys are still minor.
The morning when I first got up there was not even a breeze blowing. This is wonderful news for the firefighters, they hopefully will be able to make some major headway because of this. The down side is I could really smell the smoke this morning, but thats a minor annoyance compared to losing everything you own.
Up to this point there very few people I knew personally who were affected by this fire. But a friend lives very close to the Rimrock area that had mandatory evacuations. Actually he lives almost have way up the back way to Big Bear, on a tiny dirt road only accessible by 4 wheel drive, and even then its pretty rough in places.
As of last night, they could see the flames on the ridge above them, but had not seen any firefighters or air support in their area. Now the people who live up there live there for a reason. They like the total peace and quiet, they want to be away from civilization, and they don't want their closest neighbor to be less than 4 miles away.... (with all the building they've been doing around here, I have to admit that life style was looking pretty good to me).
But... if you make a choice to live like that, it does come with a price. When the fire got out of control it moved very quickly, and decisions had to be made on the best course of action to take with the resources available. The firefighters first priority had to be to contain and control the part of the fire that was threatening the most densely populated areas first. Try to keep it from moving into Yucca, Morongo, and Landers..... and unfortunately that meant that some of the outlying area with fewer people had to be put at the bottom of the priority list. Thats no consolation for the people up there I know but...
Our friend could very well lose every thing he owns, we won't know probably for a while what has happened. He and another friend had taken what they could, and were going to be camping in one of the canyons toward Big Bear.
Don't worry about me RW, I'm high on the south side of town, and right now the only way I would be in any danger would be if the wind started blowing from the north, picked up some embers and started another fire behind me.
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Mandatory evacuation for everyone North of Highway 64 just announced, that could affect Penguinsoda.....Anyone know if she's in this area?
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- Wolfette
Oops, Highway 62.
Mom, remember, it's not what a person is like on the outside that counts,it's what they are like in their HEART!
- Wolfette
Wind kicking up here in OC a bit... I wonder if it's also kicking up out there?
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe...
Wind is supposed to continue to pick up this afternoon.....not good!
Mom, remember, it's not what a person is like on the outside that counts,it's what they are like in their HEART!
- Wolfette
Oh man, that map makes me a little sick to my stomach. The Millard soooooo close to where I used to live. If you see Forest Falls on the map, that's my old home. Its a box canyon, meaning one way out only. That entire hillside was devastated by the bark beetle infestation many years ago, and all the timber is VERY dry. None of that area has burned in well over a hundred years.
I'm really worried about my old home now.
No, I'm several blocks up on the south side of town!! The wind has seemed to of shifted a bit, and most of the day the smoke has been blowing over my house instead of away from it. When I came home this afternoon the smoke looked like it had moved more into Morongo, but I haven't had the radio on to get the most recent update.
Last edited by penguinsoda; 07-13-2006 at 02:36 PM.
All of our water comes from underground aquifiers. A few years ago they build "recharge" basins, and they pipe in water from... Hisperia I think it is,to run into the basins... and the water seeps back into the aquifier. ( Yeah, I have no idea why we don't just use the water straight from the pipes either. Seems like it would be way more efficient to me).
Usually they only have the basins full in the cooler months, when they will lose less to evaporation. But yesterday they were filling up one of the basins so the helicopters could get water. If you check out my smugmug album on the fire, I have several pictures of the choppers filling up. They are also I think still using the pond over by the golf course, but access to that area is restricted to residents of that area, since it is right up against the ridge were the fire is burning.
Its also great seeing pictures from other areas and seeing what you guys are experiencing! Anyone else live near any of the other fires that are currently burning, please post pictures so we can all keep track of all of our MiceChatter friends and keep up with what is happening!
I snapped a pic earlier from the San Bernardino side. Yesterday, the smoke seemed to be more concentrated. Today, it is everywhere, at least from my vantage point.
My camera didn't quite pick up the few scattered clouds amongst the smoke. The only ones I can see so far are small. They are completely dwarfed by the smoke.
Anything listed on the park maps as an attraction is fair game for inclusion in the Rally.
I cannot confirm nor deny the inclusion of any attraction in the Rally.
May the Gumballs Be with You...Always.
That's extremely interesting. Thanks for filling me in, pinguin.
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http://http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20...E0BHNlYwN0bWE-All the way to Vegas! Whoa.A 40,000-acre fire chewed through desert wilderness Thursday after destroying 100 homes and buildings and was on course to possibly merge with a blaze in the San Bernardino National Forest, where it could feed on vast stands of dead trees.
The huge Sawtooth fire edged northwest toward the forest, burning greasewood, Joshua trees, pinon pines and brush on the desert floor. Containment was just 20 percent. Five miles away, the Millard fire had scorched 1,200 acres in the forest and was 5 percent surrounded.
In the scorched landscape left behind by the Sawtooth, residents returned to see how they fared.
"We're very, very lucky," said Sandy Dugan, whose Pioneertown home still stood while the charred remains of others smoldered. "It's hard to see your neighbors' homes gone."
Authorities said smoke from the blazes 100 miles east of Los Angeles was smelled in Las Vegas and Ogden, Utah
I can't tell if I smell it or not, too much smog here... looking the other direction is just as brown a torward the fire.
I was in San Bernadino in 1998 when there were fires...
I hope everyone is alright!
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