TRON Legacy - MiceChat Reviews (spoilers)

[DisneyFreak777]

Okay so here's some questions that I need answered.

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QUESTIONS:
So did Kevin Flynn die or did the fact that Sam took Kevin's disc with him kind of prove that he could somehow respawn back in the digital world? And was Kevin's disc information supposed to be the information we saw Sam putting on his little USB necklace at the send?

Also, wouldn't the whole digital world being wiped out mean that even the Sea of Simulation, where we assume Tron still is, is wiped out too? and say Tron did get wiped out, couldn't Alan Bradley just recreate another Tron program with more advanced capabilities? Or maybe that's what this Tron already is, I mean we'd probably assume it's already an upgraded version of the original.

And finally, not really a question, but I'm so glad Quorra survived, mainly because she's hot lol. Just wish they could've added Gem in the pack. And Daft Punk. I guess that leads to another question. Since Daft Punk was in the End of the Line Club during the explosion and the re-integration process (from what we know), does that mean that they died too?

I like to think way too into this, but I think it's fun breaking the plot down lol.

COMMENTS:
I kind of feel like Encom didn't get enough movie time. It almost made it seem to me like it wasn't important to the plot of the movie like the original, though in truth that seems to be true. There was nothing this time linking Encom to the virtual world. There was no Master Control Program controlling the system. Somehow I think it would've made more sense if Clu was the new "Master Control" in a sense, partnered with Encom. I'm not sure how'd they'd work that in with the plot but besides the fact that Kevin Flynn had a lot of influence in the company, the Encom scene seemed really loose to the whole plot. They didn't really explain Dillinger and how he stole Kevin's ideas either.

Oh, and the Tron Legacy Soundtrack is now #1 on iTunes!

[stimpy586]

I loved it and have seen it twice already. It looks on track to do high 40s at the Box Office this weekend. I hope it has legs so we FINALLY get that sweet E-ticket over in Tomorrowland

[k_peek_2000]

I thought it was great. I am going to be seeing it again in IMAX 3D on xmas eve. Luckily at the midnight showing. The theater was only half full because it was rainy in my area and that was really nice.

[Babs09]

Saw it today. Theater was full. I loved the movie and would see it again. The only two things that didn't make much sense to me in the movies were:

1. What were the Isos? What exactly was their purpose and why didn't Clu kill her when he had her at the freight train station?

2. Why and what did Sam upload onto that USB at the end?

[JMora]

Tron Legacy grossed $18 million on Friday, being that there was mostly bad weather all across the country, a lot people went to the local cinema (despite numbers are still low for 2010 this time of year), unless there were snowed in elsewhere. On midnight sales alone, while not a big number, Tron 2 out grossed Inception (not saying much) with just $3.5 million. Both a far cry from the record midnight king of the New Moon, which made a whopping $30 million on midnight sales alone ('Eclipse' breaks 'New Moon' record for midnight ticket sales with more than $30 million | Company Town | Los Angeles Times)!

Sources: 'Tron: Legacy' Earns $3.5 Million In Midnight Screenings - iamROGUE.com & Tron Legacy Opens to the Tune of $18 Million | TheHDRoom

[JerrodDRagon]

^we'll like some movie review said on You Tube the reason Tron came out is because Geek movies are cool today (Spiderman, batman, video game movies) and the next movie will make more (if they make it better than this one)
Also the next one will have a TV show getting more kids and Teens into Tron and hopfully a better Video game will get the 20-30 years old in. If they make a better movie next time it WILL make more money than this one (and no better story not better effects or more action)

Saw it today. Theater was full. I loved the movie and would see it again. The only two things that didn't make much sense to me in the movies were:

1. What were the Isos? What exactly was their purpose and why didn't Clu kill her when he had her at the freight train station?

2. Why and what did Sam upload onto that USB at the end?

1) Isos were (from what they say in the Video Game) living creatures that were made in the Grid but not by Fylnn and they had Free will and according to Kevin they are very important to Earth. Clu saw them as "inperfections" and wiped out all of them but Qurra. Also I don't know if Clu knew she was an Iso since in the game he captured her too but did not say anything about her being inperfect.

2) I think the Grid....Sam probably did this so no one like Dillangers son would find it and use it for evil.

[flynnibus]

Okay so here's some questions that I need answered.

The way I interpreted it... This Grid was not in ENCOMs system - but rather then computer system Flynn had in the Arcade. The grid is contained - just like your stuff is only in your hard disk, not the 'internet' as a whole kind of thing.

The grid in the movie is not some universal digital universe, just the digital universe inside that computer system.

[disneyjedi1]

I've been thinking about it since I saw it at midnight on Thursday/Friday. And let me just say.... I'm not really fond of the fact I'm a part of this film anymore. (Recording at Comic Con was fun though.) Legacy was a letdown. So much that me and one of my friends will not call it by it's full name. When the film started, I just felt this feeling of doom and gloom. Even the castle shot... which had blown me away in the past. Don't get me wrong, I liked parts of the film, but overall... I thought the story was weak, the ISOs... i don't even want to talk about them- that's really when the movie took a turn for the worse for me. And don't even get me started about the ending. Seriously.

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I do not like Quorra, or any of the programs for that matter, being able to leave the Grid. And did they really kill Kevin Flynn (also, did Flynn in this film remind anyone of Big Z from Surf's Up?)?!? And TRON was seriously underused. I was waiting for the film to be all epic after TRON said "I fight for the Users" and then... nothing.

Not enough explained. I found myself bored and sometimes confused. (which shouldn't happen in anything related to TRON) I may be in the minority here, but the visuals, while impressive, just didn't really enthrall me. I actually prefer the visuals in TRON (the costumes, the backgrounds...) Also, there was not enough use of random jargon (derez, oh my user, who does he calculate he is? that sort of thing). Yes it may alienate some viewers, but it would make the world more believable.

Just overall, the film was weak. I may see it once more, but I won't be seeing this a bajillion times like I thought I would. (I want to give it another chance, however I also get really angry when I think about Legacy)

Now let me say this, I do not regret waiting 3 years for it. Legacy has created so many memories for me this past year and a half alone. The marketing was amazing, and without Legacy I wouldn't have met one of my best friends. I don't regret dressing up to see the film either.

I bought TRON 2.0 today, so hopefully that works on my computer.... I want to see if it's a better sequel.

Man, as a huge TRON fan since I first saw the film around '03/'04, I'm seriously disappointed in Legacy. It looked ridiculously amazing... and then I saw the film. Walter's quote from the first film fits my view on the whole TRON/Legacy situation perfectly: "Here goes something. Here comes nothing."

And nothing is everywhere.

[JerrodDRagon]

^I think I liked the first film better too...just because I lied the story and characters more (aka when Kevin Fylnn was a young funny guy and Tron was a great warrior)

I also don't get how Kevin kept his light cycle but no one kept the old clothes, Tron looked 1000 times cooler with his old gear in then just a black suit.

[mycroft16]

I also don't get how Kevin kept his light cycle but no one kept the old clothes, Tron looked 1000 times cooler with his old gear in then just a black suit.

He didn't keep the old one... it got blown up by a tank. The one that Sam takes from Flynn's place is one he designed and created personally for the light cycle grid. Also, people keep vintage cars... but you don't see many people walking around in leg warmers with t-shirts scrunchied off to one side any more.

[knittingknerd]

So I saw this today. I went in with a super bad headache, but I wanted to see this movie so I braved through it. Anyhoo...

I went in with only little trivia bits in my head before (like the director was an architect before a movie director) along with ThePlaylist's review. And I saw the first one back when I was really little, so I don't remember a whole lot. The stuff from the trailers wowed me though, and I was super psyched about this movie.

I liked the direction and how things framed up (that was really cool.). I liked the way the movie looked; there were hints that the director was an architect (like the train scene some of the angles of light were soooooo cool!). I kinda' had the vibe that I would've really enjoyed seeing Frank Lloyd Wright direct a movie after seeing this. Maybe that's me. Olivia Wilde was smoking, which I think is a given. I tried to keep up with the story, but there were plot holes (which didn't bother me, but given that this movie has been 20 some years in the making...). Daft Punk and Michael Sheen were highly enjoyable. And the music... even the Journey and Annie Lennox highly enjoyable. I felt like I was in an 80s movie when Journey was busting through the speakers and Sam was going through the arcade.

I didn't like James Frain, who played Jarvis. I usually like him a lot, but I didn't like his frosted lipstick and bald head. There was something about that character and the look that I just really didn't like and weirded me out. The 3D, I can't really see 3D anyways. In my head it sorta' looked flat. Whatever that's just me...

By the time he's in the grid, I did highly enjoy the action scenes but why did Darth Maul come to mind when Rinzler comes into frame with his double discs to fight off Sam? And what's deal with older Flynn being like a cyber-Jesus

I got the Darth Maul thing a couple of times. I was like "cool another ambiguous villian! Sweet!" I got more of the cyber Buddha or cyber Monk than Jesus from Flynn. But there were a lot of God and religious vibes in this movie that I kinda' wasn't expecting. The whole son of Flynn, thing.... And Clu's almost rebellion against his creator, that was kinda' heavy in a movie like this.

The only time the digital Jeff Bridges bothered me was at the beginning of the film when he was still "Flynn". I thought they were going to do the whole not show his face bit, but the little they showed was kind of weird.

As Clu, I figured since he was a digital being it was actually ok.

I thought they were going to shoot him from behind the whole time as well. I thought in the real world seeing that digital face kinda' creepy (reminded me of "X-Men: Last Stand" with the time-warped Professor X and Magneto). I didn't mind Clu looking digital though, it fit with his character.

1. What were the Isos? What exactly was their purpose and why didn't Clu kill her when he had her at the freight train station?

2. Why and what did Sam upload onto that USB at the end?

The isos confused me. Flynn said they were the savior and all that, but in a digital world where they create everything... I didn't get the Isos. And Clu knew what Quorra was he hid her little 01 ink, and said he had something special for her. What that was I don't know... I thought Sam uploaded his dad into the chip.

Something kinda' spoilery...

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So the cameo in the Encom board room... Shall we discuss that? I kinda' heard rumors about that and knew that there wouldn't be a big actor unless they were setting up for a sequel. I feel bad for that guy because he's always a bad guy. And for the first time I didn't find him scary looking. He kinda' looked hot! I was very surprised by that. My only questions would be how they explain his motivations for going bad?

Dumb questions:
-How does Quorra go into the real world? Like seriously how is Sam going to explain who his new girlfriend is? "Um... we met in online"?
-How does a digital wi-fi age affect/effect Tron?

[JerrodDRagon]

He didn't keep the old one... it got blown up by a tank. The one that Sam takes from Flynn's place is one he designed and created personally for the light cycle grid. Also, people keep vintage cars... but you don't see many people walking around in leg warmers with t-shirts scrunchied off to one side any more.

Some vintage stuff is cool, I know girls like some dresses that are old...but if you see what Tron looks like in the one flash back scene and in the video game he had the same suit as Sam but with his face....boring Tron is the best warrior and should have his own unique look...aka the helmet from the old grid. Or something cool that he makes him LOOK different from everyone. But thats just me I LOVE Tron and heck the series is named after him he should look the coolest.

[Monorail Man]

Dumb questions:
-How does Quorra go into the real world? Like seriously how is Sam going to explain who his new girlfriend is? "Um... we met in online"?
-How does a digital wi-fi age affect/effect Tron?

While the Quorra to real-world translation was never explained, I assume that because of her 'digital DNA', she could be converted into flesh as well.

Right now, the world of TRON is just that closed system inside of the basement. I really hope with the sequel, we get to see the insides of the current ENCOM server architecture. There's lots they could do with it, and I think it would be interesting.

[mycroft16]

but given that this movie has been 20 some years in the making...).

It has not been 20 years in the making. It has been about 4. Trying to get a movie made and actually beginning production on a movie are two totally different things. TRON: Legacy was only in production for about 4 years, from the time Joe Kosinski did the test footage that convinced Disney it should be done, till now. A script was not being worked on for 20 years, no one was hired to work on it, there was no one doing pre-production work. I see this 20 years thing all over the place and it just isn't so.

Now, Wall-E was worked on off an on by Andrew Stanton for 15 years, but that's a totally different kind of thing.

[BuzzedLightyear]

I think the best way to describe the Isos would be the next step in evolution. The coding was a natural evolution within the system, but the complex root code made possible new technology and ideas that had not been explored yet. As if someone had wrote the code for an iPad in 1930. The whole film is an allegory about totalitarian governments in some way. The quest for the perfect system often begins with the homogenization of society which has historically led to the purge of different races, artists, philosophers etc. The Isos were the creative race that did not have a purpose within Clu's perfect system.