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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    I pay no attention to Rotten Tomatoes. Wall-E 96% and Cars 1 74%? Not in my opinion. It should be the other way around. Not only that, but they rate one of my absolute favorite movies (and so far everyone I've subjected it to have enjoyed, too) 13%.

    Yeah- they're full of it, as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    I'll never understand why they even made a sequel to Cars. I mean, I know why. It's John Lasseter's favorite movie. But come on. It was cute at best and the story was soooo worn out! Guy with a super ego gets put into a humbling situation and discovers he comes out of it a better person. Seen it! Many times.
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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Since most of the reviews are not from the top, more of the "I run a BLOG" critics... little too early to tell. (74% of the few "Top" critics give it a positive review as I post).

    Personally though, I never thought CARS was Pixars best. In fact, it's the only one I didn't see in a theater.

    Maybe it's because while I'm a car/race fan (F1, Rally, Former ChampCar)... never been into Nascar.

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Its the fact that they gave up an Oscar to make money that makes me sick......I mean talk about Selling out thats what this film is.

    Brave looks to be another great film like Up or Toy Story 3....but Cars 2 is crap if compared to the last two films that made most people cry.

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Even if audiences don't care about critic reviews, as a Disney/animation fan I've always taken pride in Pixar's ability to make commercially popular films that are also extremely well-made, and for elevating the animated feature to something that even the most serious of critics and the Motion Picture Academy can respect. So far, they've had the amazing ability to that every single time... and it saddens me that Cars 2 might jeopardize that.


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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    I see a lot of defense of this movie on this thread already, though I'm sure most people here haven't actually seen it yet (which is always distressing.)

    I find my self in the disappointed camp here. True, a movie should not be weighed in always by it's reviews, but an aggregator like Rotten Tomatoes is still often a good indication.

    That's not to say the movie won't be enjoyable - there are many films I "enjoy", but openly admit that they're poorly made movies. Guilty pleasures (or "popcorn flicks" as is the term being used around here.)

    I don't think there is any doubt in anyone's mind that this movie will make a ton of cash, ratings or not. These findings aren't surprising anyone, and are really irrelevant to the subject.

    What's disappointing is that we even have to use the term "popcorn flick" when trying to defend this movie at all. Pixar has never been in the business of making these type of movies and have always set the standard of how an animated movie can entertain all ages and still provide thoughtful storytelling and themes.

    Critics know this, and they are holding the film to Pixar's prior standards. Sure, I'd love this movie to be good, like the rest of you. But I think it's kind of unreasonable to say "screw the critics" and dismiss their opinions, when in the past they've always spoken the truth about every other Pixar film.

    I'll reserve my own final judgement until I see the film. We'll see what happens.
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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Quote Originally Posted by fravitmonk View Post
    What's disappointing is that we even have to use the term "popcorn flick" when trying to defend this movie at all. Pixar has never been in the business of making these type of movies and have always set the standard of how an animated movie can entertain all ages and still provide thoughtful storytelling and themes.

    Critics know this, and they are holding the film to Pixar's prior standards. Sure, I'd love this movie to be good, like the rest of you. But I think it's kind of unreasonable to say "screw the critics" and dismiss their opinions, when in the past they've always spoken the truth about every other Pixar film.
    A very well written post! To me it's always disappointing when some aspect of Disney product drops beneath Disney's own, previously-established high standards. But it's doubly disappointing when the first response of Disney fans to criticism of the product is to claim that the standards somehow don't matter in this case, or really don't apply to this particular product, or that the critics are being too picky, or that the criticism is poorly founded, biased or otherwise irrelevant.

    IMO that's not a defense of Disney. It's a disservice.
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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Some big name reviews are in, Time, New York Times, etc. Now it's down to 45%. Seems to me from just glancing at the reviews, if you don't like Mater, you're not going to like the movie.

    It's a shame, but hopefully this will be one blemish on Pixar's reputation. It's interesting to see that the lowest rated original (74% on rotten tomatoes) is up for a sequel. I realize the merch pressure, but one would hope Pixar would be above that. Hopefully the bad reviews that are coming will recitfy this failed experiment and Brave once again goes back to what Pixar does best.
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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    I'm sure Cars 2 will make unholy amounts of money but these reviews are pretty harsh. Check this out: Review: `Cars 2' is a clunker - BusinessWeek

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Often for me, if the critics hate it I'll like it and vice-versa. Not always, but often. Most critics don't fall into my demographic of happily married for 20 years with 5 kids so we just relate to different things. I loved Cars, my wife and kids love Cars, my mom loves Cars, my siblings and their kids love Cars, neighbor kids love playing with the Cars toys when they visit, etc etc. Cars appeals to a huge group of people who don't care what critical people/critics say.

    That said, I haven't seen Cars 2 yet. I hope I like it. I like James Bond movies because they are entertaining; not because they have some deep personal message or meaning. I'm guessing Cars 2 will be that same way, and I'm okay with that. Entertain me--I'm pretty simple

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    The problem is there has Been only a few reviews on rotten tomatoes, it should go up after opening tommorow

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Quote Originally Posted by TCadillac View Post
    I'm sure Cars 2 will make unholy amounts of money but these reviews are pretty harsh. Check this out: Review: `Cars 2' is a clunker - BusinessWeek
    Except when I read that review it made me want to see it.

    International cars, check.
    Mater, check.
    Spies, check.
    Action, check.
    Humor, check.
    Doesn't make you cry, check.

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Quote Originally Posted by TodAZ1 View Post
    I'll never understand why they even made a sequel to Cars. I mean, I know why. It's John Lasseter's favorite movie. But come on. It was cute at best and the story was soooo worn out! Guy with a super ego gets put into a humbling situation and discovers he comes out of it a better person. Seen it! Many times.
    Why did they make the sequel, beyond John Lasseter's wanting to do it? Because Cars made the mouse more money than any other Pixar film when you count in toys and other items. Remember there is more than just box office.

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Perhaps this is one reason Cars Land at DCA is based on the original characters and movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ni_teach View Post
    Why did they make the sequel, beyond John Lasseter's wanting to do it? Because Cars made the mouse more money than any other Pixar film when you count in toys and other items. Remember there is more than just box office.
    Very true ni_teach and, it is a film that is boy-centric which has greater appeal for action toys and as you said, regardless of box office performance cool merchandise will sell.

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    Re: Early Warning Signs For PIXAR's Cars 2

    Quote Originally Posted by yoyoflamingo View Post
    Some big name reviews are in, Time, New York Times, etc. Now it's down to 45%. Seems to me from just glancing at the reviews, if you don't like Mater, you're not going to like the movie .
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