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    Question How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

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    Does anyone know how this happened? Was he ever human?

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    I know about how if a sailor makes a deal with him, and serves on his ship the sailor will start to become part of the ship and also start to become some sort of sea creature, such as Bootstrap Bill, he still looked mostly human.



    I just didn't know if anyone knew this?



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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana John
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    Does anyone know how this happened? Was he ever human?
    Sure looked like a human heart, and his possessions (musical locket, pipe, letters, etc.) and sentimentality were quite human. The film's mythology probably has it's own take on his transformation. Here's some other ideas/info:

    Dear Yahoo!:What is the origin of the phrase "Davy Jones' Locker"?
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    Dear Lost: We knew that sailors used the phrase to refer to the bottom of the ocean, but we had no clue as to its origin. After entering the phrase "Davy Jones' Locker" in the Yahoo! search bar, we discovered several possibilities:
    Michael Quinion's excellent World Wide Words site offers a great quote from Tobias Smollet's The Adventures of Peregrine Pickle (1751): "This same Davy Jones, according to the mythology of sailors, is the fiend that presides over all the evil spirits of the deep...."
    One legend suggests that a particularly fiendish pub owner named David Jones used to incapacitate hapless drinkers in his ale locker, and send them off aboard ships. Sounds like a handy way of disposing of your enemies.
    Brewer¿s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable offers an interesting linguistic take on the issue: Davy is a bastardization of Duffy, the West Indian term for ghost. Jones comes from Jonah, the prophet who spent a few uncomfortable days lodged in the GI tract of a whale. And a locker, loosely defined, is a place to store valuable things. So the phrase "He's gone to Davy Jones' locker" (i.e., he cashed it in) loosely translates as "He's safe with Duffy Jonah now."
    A random Navy Trivia page we stumbled across has some entertaining guesses: Duffer Jones was a notoriously myopic sailor who often found himself overboard. Davy could also come from the horned one himself, the Devil. The shortest sailor on board usually impersonates him during the the Crossing of the Line, a bizarre naval cross-dressing ceremony. The less said, the better.
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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    I didn't notice it in the first viewing but in the second I picked up on it. Davy has the same locket as Tia Dalma. She wears it around her neck and we see it on top of his organ. It plays his lullabye. It's got a strange face on the front and is shaped like a heart, with crab like legs on the side.

    Here is a link to a darkbeer picture that shows both Davy's locket and Tia Dalma's. One is much larger than the other.
    http://darkbeer.smugmug.com/gallery/1606586/2/78089663

    I mention this because if Tia is the one Davy fell in love with it could be he was human at the time they were together... and only after he cut out his heart did he become what he is in the movie.

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOI

    Ok- I don't really have an answer to your question- but I wanted to jump in and comment on how fantastic I thought Davy Jones looked-- even under all that make up you could still tell it was Bill Nighy-- I think I may go see the movie again just to see some more of Davy Jones! I mean, look at this pic, tell me you don't love it!



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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOI

    Quote Originally Posted by mouselicious
    Ok- I don't really have an answer to your question- but I wanted to jump in and comment on how fantastic I thought Davy Jones looked-- even under all that make up you could still tell it was Bill Nighy-- I think I may go see the movie again just to see some more of Davy Jones! I mean, look at this pic, tell me you don't love it!


    There is no make-up on Bill Nighy. It is all CGI.

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    Quote Originally Posted by jurgenb52
    I didn't notice it in the first viewing but in the second I picked up on it. Davy has the same locket as Tia Dalma. She wears it around her neck and we see it on top of his organ. It plays his lullabye. It's got a strange face on the front and is shaped like a heart, with crab like legs on the side.

    Here is a link to a darkbeer picture that shows both Davy's locket and Tia Dalma's. One is much larger than the other.
    http://darkbeer.smugmug.com/gallery/1606586/2/78089663

    I mention this because if Tia is the one Davy fell in love with it could be he was human at the time they were together... and only after he cut out his heart did he become what he is in the movie.

    Ohhhh, interesting theory Jurgen! I did not notice that they had the same locket. THAT should be fascinating to see how it plays out in POTC:AWE!

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    Quote Originally Posted by jurgenb52
    I didn't notice it in the first viewing but in the second I picked up on it. Davy has the same locket as Tia Dalma. She wears it around her neck and we see it on top of his organ. It plays his lullabye. It's got a strange face on the front and is shaped like a heart, with crab like legs on the side.

    Here is a link to a darkbeer picture that shows both Davy's locket and Tia Dalma's. One is much larger than the other.
    http://darkbeer.smugmug.com/gallery/1606586/2/78089663

    I mention this because if Tia is the one Davy fell in love with it could be he was human at the time they were together... and only after he cut out his heart did he become what he is in the movie.
    Good eye! I saw the movie twice and I never noticed that!

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    a pretty intresting question....Really made me think....and Yes I amso notised that they both had those lockets

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    i know this is a bit off topic, but is all the stuff in the disney gallery reproduced stuff or all original stuff from the movie?

    someone said the chair is a reproduction.

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    Very nice interview, has lots of info on POTC: AWE and more - may contain SPOILERS - read at ye own peril:



    Exclusive: "Pirates" FX Guru John Knoll

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    If you're one of the 50 kajillion people who have gone to see Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest since it opened a couple weeks back, you probably marveled at the amazing effects used to create Captain Davy Jones and his pet beastie, the Kraken. As amazing and life-like as they look, it's really the work of hundreds of computer animators and effects specialists, led by Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) special effects supervisor, John Knoll.

    Knoll has already been nominated for a number of Academy and Saturn Awards for his visual effects work on the Star Wars prequels, and he's almost guaranteed to be awarded again for the groundbreaking work he has done on this movie.

    Knoll took a break from his busy schedule to talk to ComingSoon.net about what went into creating the amazing effects for the movie. Although they still have a long way to go on Pirates of the Caribbean 3, he already sounded very tired, but gamely took on the challenge of answering our many questions. Enjoy this rare look into the mind of an effects genius.
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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    as the movie goes on bootstrap bill continues to transform... at one point a new one of the things (barnacles or something?) pops out of his cheek... i can't remember quite when that was...

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    that creeped me out!

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    Quote Originally Posted by keith - SuPeR K!
    as the movie goes on bootstrap bill continues to transform... at one point a new one of the things (barnacles or something?) pops out of his cheek... i can't remember quite when that was...
    the starfish on his eye also became more prominant as its color got deeper

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    Re: How did Davy Jones become half human and half sea creature? This may contain SPOILERS

    the Sea muscles also grew larger and larger if I recall...

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith - SuPeR K!
    as the movie goes on bootstrap bill continues to transform... at one point a new one of the things (barnacles or something?) pops out of his cheek... i can't remember quite when that was...
    I herd that in POTC 3: AWE (Pirates of the Caribbean 3: At Worlds End) , That you won't be able to tell what bootstap looks like because he has transfromed and looks just like all the other cursed crewmen.

    Maybe the reason Davy Jones is like that is because of the whole torn out heart of his, and by doing that he cursed himself and whoever crewmen come abord the Flying Dutchman.



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