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    Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

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    The water bill? Don't ask

    A specialized tank was built from scratch to simulate giant swells in 'The Guardian.'

    By Susan King
    Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    September 28, 2006


    DIRECTOR Andrew Davis jokes that filming the elaborate train derailment scene in the 1993 hit "The Fugitive" was a walk in the park compared with shooting the ocean rescue sequences in his latest film, "The Guardian."

    "We just bought a train and pushed it from behind and knocked it off the tracks," he says.

    But for "The Guardian," which stars Kevin Costner and Ashton Kutcher as two Coast Guard rescue swimmers, the production had to design a special tank that would mimic the choppy, treacherous waters of the Bering Sea as well as the volatile aftereffects of hurricanes and volcanoes on the oceans.

    The tank also had to hold various sets, including a maze of caves in the Bering Sea and fishing boats in peril, while being warm enough for the actors, grips, safety crew and camera operators to swim in.

    "The great fear when you take on a project like this — I like to keep my films sort of realistic — is 'What happens if it doesn't work?' " says Davis. "What if you don't make the water look believable?"

    So he and his staff spent a lot of time exploring what real water looks like in storms. "We also looked at Coast Guard rescue footage. We used those as templates for what our goals were."

    Davis turned to two of his veteran collaborators, production designer Maher Ahmad and *visual effects supervisor William Mesa, to work their magic in the water rescue scenes.
    Full article at http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...dlines-entnews


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    Thumbs up Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    yup... that's what all movies use to simulate waves and storms etc... thanks for sharing this though!!


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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    Anyone figure out when Costner will film an underwater baseball film?

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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    Quote Originally Posted by Nanaimobar View Post
    Anyone figure out when Costner will film an underwater baseball film?
    I'm just trying to figure out how anyone thinks Costner still has a film career.
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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    Quote Originally Posted by FantasyWatersDude View Post
    yup... that's what all movies use to simulate waves and storms etc... thanks for sharing this though!!
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    "It was quite an undertaking for a number of reasons," says Ahmad, who came up with the general drawings and the descriptions of what the tank needed. What he wanted was a device that would make several types of waves. "Most of the [previously existing] wave tanks are mechanical," he explains. "They have a device or a paddle or a ball that agitates the water to create the waves."

    But mechanical motors couldn't provide the variety of waves needed.

    The waves, which swelled up to about nine feet in the tank, were created by air pressure. "It was a pneumatic air tank," Ahmad says. "Someone had the idea of going up to Six Flags in Valencia. They have a wave tank that kids bob up and down in." There was even some discussion of shooting the movie in that tank at Hurricane Harbor, but the waves there weren't raucous enough.

    Going on the Internet, they found a company in New York that designs the waves for water tank attractions at theme parks. The producers decided to build their own. But because the company had never built a machine for a square tank — the theme parks' tanks have a rounded end where the waves dissipate — "we didn't know exactly what was going to happen," Ahmad says.

    "There was a lot of risk involved because we were basically doing something that had never been done. We were working on past experiences and intuition. We were liable to build this thing and it wouldn't work right."
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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    Waterworld, part II?

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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    "I haven't been this confused since 'No Way Out'"

    <Walking out of theater playing "No Way Out"> "How does Kevin Costner keep getting work?"

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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    I don't know anybody who is interested in seeing this movie.


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    Re: Water bill for 'The Guardian'? Don't ask - Los Angeles Times 9/28/06

    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    I agree.
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