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    "Escalation"-Ward Kimball protest film (Warning: Adult Themes)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PZBtWNxlQs

    Interesting film short Ward Kimball made in 1968 protesting the Lyndon Johnson's escalation of the Vietnam War.
    WARNING! Watch at your own risk! Some nudity and strong content.

    Watch it soon-Youtube may take this down.
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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Interesting... and odd. I suppose that makes sense for 1968. Do you suppose it's real?

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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Interesting. But what is the end of Escalation? When everyone escalates instead of finding better paths, we are in deep trouble.

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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigoon View Post
    Interesting... and odd. I suppose that makes sense for 1968. Do you suppose it's real?
    The artwork looks like it could be.
    Quote Originally Posted by PanTheMan View Post
    Interesting. But what is the end of Escalation? When everyone escalates instead of finding better paths, we are in deep trouble.

    Oh, those crazy War Loving Texans.....
    No kidding, You're so right about some Texans not all of them.
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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Interesting....

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    Escalation - a film by Ward Kimball

    Let me start out by saying that this piece contains some explicit material, so if you are under the age of seeing things like this then don't click on the link below. And to further drive your interest away if you happen to be a minor, it's about LBJ and the Vietnam war. No, seriously. It is.

    But if you aren't a minor, feel free to click here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PZBtWNxlQs

    This file was just uploaded recently. It's a 1968 short film by Disney animation great, Ward Kimball; who apparently had A LOT to say about the war in Vietnam back in the 1960s.
    Now, I'm not going to comment too much on it because I wasn't alive during this particular time in history and I don't feel like I can really put my two cents in not having lived in the era, but I would LOVE to know what all of you think about it. What do you think the symbolism means, what are your thoughts and feelings on the matter?
    If you visit the page, you can see that it's gaining a lot of comments and attention in the short 2 days that its been up.
    I thought everyone might be interested in it, being a Ward Kimball piece that we haven't seen before. I think it shows a new side of him most of us are not familiar with.

    (If it's too inappropriate, mods can feel free to remove it, and my sincerest apologies!)

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    Re: Escalation - a film by Ward Kimball

    I remember it well.

    16mm prints of this short film made the rounds of some college campuses back when it was made. You might call this one of the many "underground" protest films of the time. A lot of symbolism, to be sure. Pretty harsh, but then again back then...people weren't afraid to upset the "establishment" and pull any punches. Those audiences loved it, and it always got lots of applause.

    I will say one more thing about the time it was released in. I'd guess that 99% of the people that saw this film back then...would have had no idea who Ward Kimball was or that he was associated with Disney.

    At that time...Disney animators (even the 9 Old Men) were mostly totally unknown to the general public. Not like today where these guys are much more well known. Disney artists didn't get any individual recognition in those days. They were well known in the animation coummuity...but your average Joe on the street (and even many Disney fans back then)...wouldn't know Ward Kimball from Adam.

    Oh. And one more thing. I think I would have labeled Ward a liberal Democrat in much (but not all) of his politics. Which was LBJ's "label" and party affiliation. This makes this film even more scathing...in that Ward obviously felt LBJ had totally joined forces and prostituted himself with the conservative Military Industrial Complex.

    Just something for context of the times.

    But Ward was a wild man...that's for sure. The very definition of "nonconformist." Nothing would ever surprise me about what came out of his volatile imagination. And he was fearless too. Never worried about the consequences. At least not for himself.

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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Tinkerbell has a thread going on this topic in the entertainment forum. Maybe we could merge them? Opus1guy has provided some great background on this film:

    http://www.micechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53811

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    Re: Escalation - a film by Ward Kimball

    I'm not so sure I agree with Ward Kimball not being known. He was at least semi-well known outside of the studio. After all, whenever Walt needed an animator on TV, he was most likely the one to be there. Though, because there was no Tivo, it wasn't so easy to go back to the episodes to remember what that guy's name was on that one episode....
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    Re: Escalation - a film by Ward Kimball

    I liked this short. It's the first time I've seen it. I've heard about it before but had not seen it until now.
    It's amazing how much punch it packs for being such a simple piece.

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    Re: Escalation - a film by Ward Kimball

    That was... interesting.

    So.... other than the nose getting bigger because he's a liar.... the rest is saying... what exactly? That the war is fueling American culture, commercialism, and indulgence?

    This from one of the top people at Disney, Mickey Mouse,and Disneyland - the epitome of American culture, commercialism, and indulgence?

    Really?

    Really?

    So.. to review. Johnson was a liar and Ward Kimball was a... what? Someone who speaks out against what he helps create? What is that called?

    Better animator than political activist I guess.
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    Re: Escalation - a film by Ward Kimball

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinkerbell View Post

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    I think we'll be just fine. This is more History than Politics.

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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Sorry I had already started it here yesterday.
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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    That ... was (as TGEL said) Interesting.

    I mean, I guess that was a trying time in american history (like now) and I can kind of see his point and of course he has the 'right' to protest.

    But in all his little clips about Americana I saw that he didn't include anything regarding possibly the most famous part of Americana ... Disneyland or Mickey Mouse.

    I realize it was his employer, but if your REALLY going to have the guts to protest something like that, you shouldn't be afraid to include anything.


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    Re: Escalation-Ward Kimball protest film.

    Well if you ask me, his nose is supposed to represent something.




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