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    Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

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    An Indian tribe has formally proposed building a Las Vegas-style casino complex just up the road from Disneyland in the latest and far and away most lavish plan for making Garden Grove a tourist destination.

    The Gabrielino-Tongva Tribe's proposal calls for two opulent casinos housing 7,500 slot machines, two upscale hotels, a 10,000-seat stadium and — the topper— a promise of a college scholarship for every high school graduate in Garden Grove.

    The plan, submitted to the city this week, also promises $5.1 billion to the city over 30 years, payment of $100 million for infrastructure improvements within the city and nearly 10,000 permanent jobs.

    "Everybody knows Disneyland is a huge tourist attraction and so are big Indian casinos," said Jonathan Stein, who identifies himself as the CEO of the tribe. "Casinos just generate gobs and gobs of money, and everyone is going to benefit from this."
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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Watch Bob Iger get upset at this proposal.

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    They makes "gobs of money" stripmining the wallets of those who visit them and become addicted to playing. Bad idea.
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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    "Gobs of Money" Sounds like that Jonathan Stein is quite the intellectual!I bet he'll be the1st in line for that college scholarship money.

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Well, we could have suspected something like this was coming from recent trial balloons on the net.

    So what is Anaheim to do but legalize gambling to compete with Shelbyville? Then Disney gets in...? Or does Disney help design the Garden Grove casinos?

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by Cousin Orville View Post
    They makes "gobs of money" stripmining the wallets of those who visit them and become addicted to playing. Bad idea.
    No, actually good idea. Remember who took their land and made gobs of money stripmining and selling it, and became addicted to money and power.

    Chickens coming home to roost, kids. I say right on, go Gabrielino-Tongva tribe!

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    "a promise of a college scholarship for every high school graduate in Garden Grove."

    If this is a REAL promise, there's no way the city can say no.

    People would move to the city just so their kids can get a free eduction.

    For that reason it's a good idea.

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdshiftCM View Post
    If this is a REAL promise, there's no way the city can say no.

    People would move to the city just so their kids can get a free eduction.

    For that reason it's a good idea.
    Just to play devils advocate... if a drug kingpin moved in and offered the same.. would you turn a blind eye for the same reward?

    Note also it said 'scholarship' not 'full ride' The article quotes 'could be [...] up to 2,500 annually'.
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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Wait a second ... when we were voting to have indian casinos, one of the things they said was that there wouldn't be "Vegas Style" casinos in urban areas ... Of course, I didn't believe it for a second, but that sure didn't take long.


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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    What happend to the 4 Billion dollar theme park resort that was supposed to be built in Garden Grove?


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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Build it! I think it would be cool if Disney helped design it!

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Quote Originally Posted by MinneapolisJeff View Post
    Build it! I think it would be cool if Disney helped design it!
    That would be cool. The themeing would be perfect if Disney did it. But outside of Anaheim, the only property IMO that Disney really would be interested in is some land for a DVC at one of the local beaches.

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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Gambling, prostitution and drugs should be legalized in all 50 states... and I'm not kidding. It's time that we, as a country, grew up.
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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    I think a casino would be cool to have


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    Re: Tribe proposes Vegas-style casino in Garden Grove - LA Times, 7/28/07

    Garden Grove would be wise to disallow this casino venture. The guy proposing it has little credibility, provides no stats for his profit numbers, has no solid finacial backing and is trying to pull a fast one in the legislature to get a bill passed so his tribe can be recognized by the state and his "tribe" can build it. There were no tribe members interviewed save the attorney who is suing the developer.

    I'll bet the casino would have to rely on locals just like Disney does at the moment. Since there are no table games, I imagine the jobs will mostly be low wage. The claims are just to big to deliver.

    Garden Grove's best bet was to get the San diego tribe's casino built because at least that had the backing of Steve Wynn.

    Keep in mind that with casinos come gambling addictions and encourages alcohol addiction because if you get people mellow they will not pay attetion and lose more. If they agree on it they better get lots of Gamblers Anonymous groups. There will be a lot of broken lives.

    I agree on the legalized prostitution and some drugs.

    I live in Reno, NV.
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