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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Wow. Freak out much?


    Whether it's just boilerplate or not, it's still Disney, just as a Lincoln or a Mercury is still just a Ford. The Touchstone nameplate is nothing more than a marketing shield. That's it. Therefore Roger and his pals are just as "Disney" as Mickey, Dumbo, Beast or any other classic Disney character.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Of course it's a Disney Classic. Roger is amazing, Jessica is amazing, the weasels are perfect villians and Judge Doom is still creepy. And it's based on a true story. The people part, not really the toon part. And it taught me a really important lesson about alcohol.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    Wow. Freak out much?


    Whether it's just boilerplate or not, it's still Disney, just as a Lincoln or a Mercury is still just a Ford. The Touchstone nameplate is nothing more than a marketing shield. That's it. Therefore Roger and his pals are just as "Disney" as Mickey, Dumbo, Beast or any other classic Disney character.

    LOL, thank you.


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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    I love this movie. I wish it would get a real Disney rerelease like NBC did. There is a Roger Rabbit ride in Disneyland, so obviously the company has no qualms about being associated with it now. This is an absolutely wonderful and marvelous movie, it is one of the great classics of cinema. Enchanted was very good, but it was no "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?".

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    Wow. Freak out much?


    Whether it's just boilerplate or not, it's still Disney, just as a Lincoln or a Mercury is still just a Ford. The Touchstone nameplate is nothing more than a marketing shield. That's it. Therefore Roger and his pals are just as "Disney" as Mickey, Dumbo, Beast or any other classic Disney character.
    I don't suffer fools gladly, I'll tell you that.

    And if you want to declare that "It's all Disney," goaheadon. There are those who would disagree with you, or, as you have so charitably put it, "freak out."

    Thank you for clearing everything up.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Huh. I was wondering if you would respond. I wasn't expecting name calling, but if that's the only tool in your box, then oh well. Your loss.

    Either way, Disney is Disney is Disney. If it looks like a mouse, walks like a mouse... well, you know.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
    Huh. I was wondering if you would respond. I wasn't expecting name calling, but if that's the only tool in your box, then oh well. Your loss.

    Either way, Disney is Disney is Disney. If it looks like a mouse, walks like a mouse... well, you know.
    Gee, with downright insults like

    Wow. Freak out much?
    followed by declarations of immutable fact like

    The Touchstone nameplate is nothing more than a marketing shield. That's it.
    and the follow-up declaration

    Therefore Roger and his pals are just as "Disney" as Mickey, Dumbo, Beast or any other classic Disney character.
    there wasn't a whole lot of room for discussion, even of my statement

    My point that it "isn't even Disney" is relevant, because it is harder-edged and raunchier than a "Disney" film.
    because you would rather show off your superior knowledge that Touchstone is a division of Disney so it's all the same and that settles that.

    As I said, goaheadon. Think what you want. I tried to discuss and got insulted and dismissed, because you couldn't discern a difference between Disney and Touchstone so you declared there wasn't any, and "That's it."

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    and, by the way, I said I didn't suffer fools gladly. Your taking umbrage at that declaration says a lot about your self-esteem.
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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    ^See that's what we mean by freaking out. You weren't "discussing". You were the one trying to show off your superior knowledge (that happens to be false).

    It's not even that Touchstone is a division of Disney.... it was CREATED by Disney for Disney. It's not even like Pixar, which was created by Lucasfilm and now owned by Disney. Touchstone is pure Disney.

    Even the film Dick Tracy that was released under the Touchstone header -- was originally going to be released under the Walt Disney Pictures header. If Pirates of the Caribbean was released in the 90s, it would probably be under the Touchstone or Hollywood Pictures banner due to the violence and dialogue.


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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by tod View Post
    Your taking umbrage at that declaration says a lot about your self-esteem.
    Yeah, says the guy who can't debate a point without calling people fools. Sure, you got it.



    (And BTW, it isn't an insult when you freak out and somebody notices it. That is what is called an observation. Little bit of a difference there.)

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    I obviously misread the nature of the thread.

    Athough it was titled "Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?" the nature of the thread seems to be "Roger Rabbit IS a Disney Classic: Discuss."

    My obesrvation that the movie was harder-edged and raunchier than a "Disney film" was ignored. Instead, people quibbled over whether "Touchstone" was owned by Disney, which was never in doubt, even by me, and I brought it up in the first place.

    Carry on.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by tod View Post
    My obesrvation that the movie was harder-edged and raunchier than a "Disney film" was ignored. Instead, people quibbled over whether "Touchstone" was owned by Disney, which was never in doubt, even by me, and I brought it up in the first place.

    Carry on.

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    We didn't quibble. YOU did. But carrying on...

    Harder-Edged? Agree.

    Raunchier? Hmmm, that's not quite the word I would describe it.

    raun·chy [rawn-chee, rahn-]
    –adjective -chi·er, -chi·est. Informal.
    1. vulgar or smutty; crude; earthy; obscene: a raunchy joke.
    2. dirty; slovenly; grubby.



    Disney films by definition aren't raunchy. And Roger Rabbit under Touchstone has minimal adult language and some innuendo, but it isn't smutty or obscene. At least not to me.

    Porky's is raunchy. American Pie. South Park. Raunchy. Roger Rabbit? Not so much.


    How about just Harder-Edged? It labels it about right.


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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    We didn't quibble. YOU did. But carrying on...
    I could point out that I said it was Touchstone to make a point and it got lost in an artificial controversy about who owns Touchstone -- which was never in doubt -- but I won't pursue that argument further.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Raunchier? Hmmm, that's not quite the word I would describe it.

    raun·chy [rawn-chee, rahn-]
    –adjective -chi·er, -chi·est. Informal.
    1. vulgar or smutty; crude; earthy; obscene: a raunchy joke.
    2. dirty; slovenly; grubby.

    Disney films by definition aren't raunchy. And Roger Rabbit under Touchstone has minimal adult language and some innuendo, but it isn't smutty or obscene. At least not to me.

    Porky's is raunchy. American Pie. South Park. Raunchy. Roger Rabbit? Not so much.

    How about just Harder-Edged? It labels it about right.
    I said "Raunchy" and I'll stick with it.
    • Baby Herman walking under the PA's skirt and coming out looking up.
    • "I have a 50-year-old lust and a three-year-old dinky."
    • "I would have been here sooner, but I had to shake the weasels."
    • Jessica shoving her boobs into Eddie's chest.
    • "Is that a rabbit in your coat or are you just glad to see me?"

    Just off the top of my head.

    I'm not offended, I never was. But this ain't "some innuendo." It's a LOT of innuendo, and a helluva long way from Snow White looking in a well and trilling "I'm wishing."

    At the risk of reopening a can of worms, it went out under the Touchstone label FOR A REASON. I think that a lot of the film is inconsistent with a "Disney" film and so I answered the question "Disney classic?" with "No."

    I still feel that way.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Riiiiight. "Shake the weasels" is raunchy? I always took Dolores' delivery of that line as strictly factual and never as a dirty line for the sake of being dirty.

    Jessica shoving her boobs into Eddie's face? Were we watching the same movie? There was a scene where she gets close to him in desperation... and her boobs are so big where else are they gonna go? Then maybe there's a scene where eddie hits them with his head -- a hilarious gag. And of course the "booby trap". Definitely a tad more grown-up but far from being raunchy.

    The "or are you just happy to see me?" gag is not even raunch either!

    Are you going to add Betty Boop flashing or jessica's panties disappearing to the list? My goodness.


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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Riiiiight. "Shake the weasels" is raunchy? I always took Dolores' delivery of that line as strictly factual and never as a dirty line for the sake of being dirty.
    Suit yourself, I thought it was a naughty little grace note.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Jessica shoving her boobs into Eddie's face? Were we watching the same movie?
    Are you reading my post? I said "Jessica shoving her boobs into Eddie's chest."

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    The "or are you just happy to see me?" gag is not even raunch either!
    Matter of opinion. I think it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    Are you going to add Betty Boop flashing or jessica's panties disappearing to the list? My goodness.
    I didn't mention either of those -- one was cut out, one is questionable -- but they help make my point.

    This is a grown-up movie with a lot of sexual innuendo. I don't think it's a "Disney classic."

    I'm not a prude, I wasn't offended, I think it's a very good movie.

    I don't know what more I can say.

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    Re: Roger Rabbit, Disney Classic?

    Honey, don't open the door. I'm shaking the weasel.

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