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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    I like the idea of making the DVD available to buy at the theatre. First, you have to buy a theatre ticket to get to it, so the theatre isn't losing a dime. If you release the DVD exclusively in theatres showing the film you solve that problem. You might even stimulate some sales through enthusiasm.

    I really think that those who will buy a theatre ticket to see a film on the big screen and those who will wait and see in later on DVD are two different audiences anyway. Catering to one group isn't stealing from the other. Honestly... when LOTR came out, and you went to the theatre, would you REALLY have bought the DVD (if you could) and taken it home to watch on your dinky TV with its 5" speaker?

    The death of theatres... and movies in general... was predicted when TV arrived, when VHS arrived and now when DVDs are prevalent.
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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    LOTR is definitely the exception to the rule as far as movies these days are concerned. Summers are supposed to be when the best movies come out, but this summer has been a real bust, at least IMHO. For it to be worth paying exhorbitant prices for movies, they have to make good movies. I think just about every movie, short of March of the Penguins, that I saw this summer sucked.

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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    First off I think a simaltanious (sp?) release is a really bad idea.

    first off as was mentioned earlier family films will be harder if not impossable to see in the theater, It's hard enough to find a movie that I can take the kids to...they love going to the movies, it's a huge treat....granted it's expensive for my family of 4 it's about $35 just to get in before popcorn and drinks (all for less than 2 hours) but we are willing to do it for the novelty that it gives the kids, and for something to do as a family.
    but if they release the movie on the big screen and the DVD at the same time I do think the theaters will notice a very big drop in attendance and realize it's not worth it to them to have family movies run for long (perhaps a short release...but they are already so short as it is)

    I do not think the duel release will effect blockbuster type movies as much....I want to see them on the big screen... but I chose which movies are worth the $20 for my husband and I to see....

    for example (it's older but bear with me) Titanic was no match on DVD as in the theater...what you went to see was the scale, Star Wars movies...big screen, LOTR big screen, Braveheart better on a big screen, but, something like wedding crashers for example, I'm waiting for the DVD (course I don't really want to watch that one, hubby does)

    basicly what I'm saying are big budget blockbusters special effects mega movies will not be effected, we will still go, but charactor based movies, kids movies, family movies, niche movies....they will be hurt by the change....

    but the theaters won't go away...

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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    Quote Originally Posted by cellarhound
    This proves to me that Iger is an idiot... And should NOT run a film studio... Please, please... Get someone else!!!
    Actually, I think his quote proves otherwise. The movie industry is seeing lower box office receipts this year as high-end home theaters continue to increase. Couple that with mass-released DVD titles such as The Incredibles and Shrek 2 failing to make their sales goals and you have movie studios that can't quite get a handle what consumers want in the entertainment market.

    Iger may not have the right answer, but the fact he's suggesting a solution that falls outside the norm in Hollywood is a good sign for Disney. It's been a long time since any Disney executive has been accused of innovative thinking.

    I don't think this sounds a death knell for movie theaters either. Going to the movies has always been a very public, communal experience. DVD's and VOD will never completely replace the theater experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by lafantasma
    Summers are supposed to be when the best movies come out, but this summer has been a real bust, at least IMHO.
    Can't agree with you there. Summer is the time when the most commercial movies come out--ask any film exec. I can't remember the last summer release I thought was the best movie of the year.

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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    Quote Originally Posted by sediment
    Regardless of the window issue, theaters are getting hit a lot more than film companies by piracy. The extremely poor quality of "home movies" I've seen allows only the least sophisticated (and mostly economically disadvantaged) of people to buy them instead of going to the theater or waiting for the DVD.
    Film companies get hit when their high-quality digital masters are copied and sent to thieves overseas. You can only trust so many inside people to not succomb to the dark side. What having a film on DVD at the theatrical opening will do is invert the window, allowing it to be available BEFORE the theatrical release! (That's how good the thieves are.)

    What theaters need to do is make themselves different from, and better than, staying at home. Currently, they're a commodity business. And a way too expensive one at that.
    Let me say that piracy is much more prevalent in So Cal than it is in Nor Cal...

    And I can tell you for a fact that not all film theatres in America run feature films once they are released... In many comunities, the have to wait for it some times weeks...

    Moving the DVD release undermines these theatres... Because let me tell you people can have access to the DVD in these communities much much quicker than the theatrical release...

    It would be killing the theatrical industry...
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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    Quote Originally Posted by disneytim
    Iger may not have the right answer, but the fact he's suggesting a solution that falls outside the norm in Hollywood is a good sign for Disney. It's been a long time since any Disney executive has been accused of innovative thinking.

    I don't think this sounds a death knell for movie theaters either. Going to the movies has always been a very public, communal experience. DVD's and VOD will never completely replace the theater experience.

    But this answer is spoken NOT by someone from the Film Industry... It is spoken by someone who is more televison oriented... Someone with who is more interested in Content Distribution rather than the Film Studio...

    Iger will kill the film studio...
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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    Quote Originally Posted by lafantasma
    Hey, in Las Vegas, it cost as much to go to the movies- up to $9.50 each on a Fri or Sat night- as it does to buy it on DVD. Bring it on!

    Oh, totally. I'm sick of having to walk through a casino to see a freaking MOVIE.

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    I hate it when the bean counters are making the decisions.

    There are so many different things I want to say about this topic, but I want to keep the post short, so here goes

    Here's why the studio execs probably think this will work...

    1) Closer distribution cycles between theater and DVD release means less money on advertising (no need to build awareness twice).
    2) DVD distribution is much cheaper than film distribution (at least until digital projection becomes more prevalent) because the it is shared with lots of other packaged goods.
    3) The margins on DVD's are much higher than they are for films (from a studio stand point) because they don't have to share profits with the theaters.

    Here's why I think this idea will fail...

    1) Second week sales will drop considerably (why see it again in theaters when you've got the DVD, or will get within a week or two?)
    2) DVD's won't as easily be able to "save" a film's profitability. Frequently when a bad film comes to DVD, the studio will put a whole different spin on it to try and change the negative word of mouth it got in theaters. It's harder to kill negative word of mouth when it's still fresh in people's brains.
    3) People on the fence about whether or not to see a movie in theaters will be more likely to just go straight to the DVD, cutting into more potential profits.

    In the end, I think the studios are just cannibalizing their own business.

    Sorry this post ended up being longer than I had hoped. Discuss!

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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    I think theatres could save their business by cutting prices - but the studios would have to cut theirs as well to make it work. $10 is really just too much money for a theatre ticket, and at $20 for two, we can buy most dvds.

    If movie tickets dropped back to $5/ea, it would be "nothing" to pop down to the theatre and see a film - and I think I'd be more willing to risk my entertainment dollar on a few potentially loser films.

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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    Here's an idea... MAKE BETTER MOVIES and people will go see them in the theater!
    I don't see why Hollywood blames their low attendance at theatres solely on ticket prices, there are ALOT of other problems that can be the cause of this.
    I think they should make more lower budget, independent films. These type of movies are starting to become more popular than they were a few years ago, and people are finally becoming interested in them. Hollywood is just too afraid to take risks anymore.
    Not every movie needs to have some high speed chase/fight scenes with explosions and millions of dollars wasted on it. The studios are only aiming at teenage boys with these type of films, so of course more people don't watch those movies. They need to come up with new ideas for movies, people don't want to see remakes of movies they've already seen, they already know how the story ends, but sadly that's the only stuff the studios are putting out now because it's "safe".
    I'm afraid that if Hollywood's studios can't open their eyes to these problems theatres may be doomed.

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    Re: Disney Breaking News

    The high costs are not entirely the theater's fault. A friend of mine looked into renting an old theater building and he would have had to sell ticekts at around 7-9 dollars just to keep his head above water.

    I think going to the movies is a wonderful experience and something I get a high on every time. Comedies work better in large audiences. As do thrillers and action movies. Feelings are infectous, be it laughter or fear. Have you ever been in a theater that burst into applause after a huge F/X scene or the villian finally gets it. It makes that momment more personal and more emotional. This is something that can't be duplicated with you and your friend on the couch.

    The theater is also good because we give the film our whole attention. Many great films have slow beginnings, and had I had the DVD, I would have simply got bored and turned it off, or stopped paying attention. In the theater however, I stay through to the end and come out loving the film for it's ending. For the most part, you arent recieving phone calls in the theater, dinner isnt burning in the other room in the theater, your parents/kids arent harassing you about chores or whatnot in the theater.

    In the old days, like 5-10 years ago, it took about 6 months to a year for the film to come out to buy. This was awesome. I would forget about movies and be all excited when I saw it was coming out soon. I would give movies I didn't care for a second chance. This also meant, if you want to see the film, get your butt to the theater within the next few weeks.

    Now, I find it too easy to not see movies because I know I can rent them a month later. When the DVDs come out so early, I'm usually sick of the film because it was advertised in theaters for 6 months, TVs for 3, saw it in theaters, then they push the DVD. I was about to scream if I saw another add for Sky Captain and the World of Tommorow.

    Yes, there will always be piracy due to technology. But these lowlifes who buy the bootlegs are rarely the target audience. The dad who buys DVDs off the street is not the kind of dad who would take his kids to the movies. So the theaters are not really loosing that much business from piraters.

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