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| Darkbeer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 http://www.ocregister.com/news/prope...veloper-suncal Quote:
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![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 sometimes the best thing you can do when your mortaly wounded is just find a nice quite place to die. poor SunCal just cant figure it out. |
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| Darkbeer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 FYI, those folks in the SoCal area, there will be a forum at Cal State Fullerton this Thursday night. http://www.ocregister.com/news/estate-real-anaheim-1911984-land-resort The forum begins at 6:45 p.m. in the Portola Pavilion at the Titan Student Union. http://campusapps.fullerton.edu/news...ealestate.html
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| Darkbeer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 Of Course, SunCal can walk away from others, leaving them holding the bag.... http://www.bakersfield.com/hourly_ne...ry/250896.html Quote:
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| Darkbeer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 http://www.ocblog.net/ocblog/2007/10....html#comments Quote:
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![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 Sun Cal is making a fool of themselves. |
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![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 Quote:
Darkbeer, I don't know how you find this stuff, but thank you! That one is fascinating. I won't pretend to know enough about big developers to get exactly what SunCal's strategy here was. Certainly they can't be that hard up for money that they outright defaulted on the loan with no other choice. There must be some strategic benefit for them to default on such a huge loan to another big player like Lennar. And yet, I can't think of what that benefit may be, aside from getting out of their bad business decision to take on an 80 million dollar loan just as the housing bubble burst in a very ugly way. This has to hurt SunCal's long term financial standing though, as not even big companies can default on a loan without it impacting their credit rating and financial standing within the banking system. Maybe the answer really is as simple as it seems; SunCal is running out of money like some other big developers and simply could no longer afford the 80 Million dollar loan? Also interesting that SunCal has already sunk 10 Million into the Anaheim mess they created. They've got to be feeling pretty stupid about now. The biggest pain for SunCal is still to come though, when the Anaheim voters go to the polls next June. | |
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| Darkbeer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 http://ocresort.freedomblogging.com/ Quote:
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![]() | Re: Housing deal by Disney could unravel - OC Register, 10/30/07 In a story that will appear in Monday's edition of the Orange County Business Journal, Lennar has just announced that it has halted all sales at it's 1,500 unit Central Park West condo development in Irvine. This includes the high-rise luxury Astoria towers that are nearing completion. There are also hundreds of additional Lennar condo units nearing construction completion in the CPW development. But none of them are selling, and Lennar will now halt all future construction, bring the current construction to an end, shut down it's Central Park West Living Studio sales center across the street, and now just sit and wait a few years for the market to rebound before it tries to resume selling these already completed condominiums. The completed buildings will be sealed and put into mothballs for the time being, with a small security detail the only residents at Central Park West for the foreseeable future. Lennar has also put a halt on further construction of its Platinum Triangle development a few blocks from Disneyland in Anaheim, as well as the massive Lennar housing development once planned near the Irvine Great Park on the old El Toro USMC base. That should tell you what the market is like now for shoebox condo units in Orange County. The Central Park West site is vastly more attractive than the property SunCal is making a fuss over. The CPW site is located on Jamboree near several other high rise luxury condo towers that are already completed and occupied, as well as being within walking distance of several upscale and trendy shopping centers with high end retail, services, and dining. Plus, Irvine is already a more attractive housing market than central Anaheim thanks to the top-notch schools and first-rate public amenities available to Irvine citizens. Taking this Lennar news into account, it's obvious that the SunCal site doesn't stand a snowball's chance in heck of being a lucrative housing site at any time in the next 10 to 15 years. It will take years and years for just the Platinum Triangle to recover from this housing depression sweeping OC. And Lennar had already spent millions prepping the Platinum Triangle land with infrastructure, streets, parks, etc. Now Lennar is shutting it down and putting it in mothballs through at least the end of this decade. SunCal is cooked. Thus far, SunCal's Anaheim Exit Strategy seems to only be alienating their previous allies, and burning bridges with a few of the politicians who once supported them in Anaheim's city hall. Once the OC Busines Journal story is available on their website tomorrow, I'll link to it. But it can be read today on the front page of this weeks Orange County Business Journal for those that get that business weekly. |
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