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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    Well, then it's not a waste. To them.

    It's usually better to make money on such acreage than to, say, build something on a parking lot that does not earn a return on investment, and which requires a second helping of investment.
    Don't ya think, CaliforniaAdventurer?
    Uh - yah. Now... What about the light rail going "in my backyard" to the residents who live on the railway r.o.w.? They prefer a Sepulveda/Venice Blvd alignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Uh - yah. Now... What about the light rail going "in my backyard" to the residents who live on the railway r.o.w.? They prefer a Sepulveda/Venice Blvd alignment.
    I think they should sell their houses and move somewhere else. That would be a lot easier than fighting, even if they were to win.

    I'm not sure how things got so out of whack that a "right of way" can lose its rights just because of complainers. Best lawyer wins, I guess.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    I wish I knew what businesses line the Venice/Sepulveda alternative.

    Office buildings? Or McDonald's?

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    I wish I knew what businesses line the Venice/Sepulveda alternative.

    Office buildings? Or McDonald's?
    St Augustine's Catholic School.
    South side off Venice starting about Westwood Ave is small houses/apts.
    Sepulveda is full of apartments.
    Charnock Rd Elementary School.
    More apartments.
    More apartments, though smaller numbers of units, north of The 10.

    Businesses at the major cross streets.

    The "preferred route" hardly affects traffic at all during construction. So, it's a matter of which school is "more important."


    West of The 405, though, there is a lot of stuff in the right of way. Mostly parking, but those cars will have to park somewhere else.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Would the area along Sepulveda/Venice Blvds. be ripe for "transit oriented developments"?

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Rumor Train: California to Get Money for High Speed Rail from Feds

    California's chances still look good. We may not get the full $4.5 billion, but may be given chunks of money for certain segments, which also include San Francisco to San Jose, Merced to Fresno and Fresno to Bakersfield. Announcements regarding funding are expected in January at the earliest.
    Rumor Train: California to Get Money for High Speed Rail from Feds - LAist

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Why the Gold Line Opening Was Delayed


    Why the Gold Line (Eastside Extension) was delayed

    Why the Gold Line Opening Was Delayed


    A Neon Tommy investigation has revealed why the Gold Line's opening was delayed, despite being ahead of schedule in construction. Basically, electrical shorts caused trains to "unpredictably switch tracks." The USC internet news site was given the run around by Metro, but it eventually obtained 40 pages of documents that led to their recent story. In part, here's what happened:

    Continue reading "Why the Gold Line Opening Was Delayed"

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Metro Seek Millions for Westside Subway & Connector
    $77.6 million from the federal government is sought by Metro and two members of congress to fund preliminary engineering for the westside subway and the regional connector. Both Rep. Diane Watson and Rep. Henry Waxman have written letters in support of Metro obtaining the money, despite a coalition of 14 others who rather see the money go elsewhere. $77.6 million is a drop in the bucket compared to the total costs of these projects, but Metro sees it as a "crucial test," as Metro puts it: "Do the projects meet the [Federal Transit Administration's] requirements for funding? And does the FTA want to find a way to get L.A. County — the nation’s most populous county — into the New Starts program?" their blog asks.

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    Map of the Day: Metro Studies Transit Options to Harbor

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Metro.net Regional Connector

    Here is a page showing how the CA HSR train would fit into the local So Cal transportation system.

    Connecting LA and Orange County...in 20 minutes!
    The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) includes $8 billion for High-Speed Train (HST). Metro is coordinating with the California High-Speed Rail Authority, Federal and State agencies to help secure a portion of this designated funding for this segment.

    Once funding is secured, Metro, the Orange County Transportation Authority and the California High-Speed Rail Authority will work together to build this vital Southern California train connection.

    High-speed trains will be able to travel between Union Station in Downtown Los Angeles and ARTIC, Orange County’s transportation hub located in Anaheim adjacent to Angel Stadium, the Honda Center, Disneyland and Downtown Disney in just 20 minutes.

    Compare that with driving the same heavily congested freeway corridor; the peak-period trip clocks in at over an hour.
    Metro.net Regional Connector

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Would the area along Sepulveda/Venice Blvds. be ripe for "transit oriented developments"?
    Maybe. No more or less than the Exposition Route on an existing right-of-way. Both will cross major streets. I'm more in the "If you build it, they will come" camp, in which landowners will see the value in high-rise apartments and offices near rail stops (and homeowners should get a boost as well, when eventually selling to commuters).
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Doesn't the Exposition Right Of Way wind through a single story residential neighborhood in that section? Multistory buildings would be unsuitable - but Sepulveda and Venice boulevards are congested enough without surface level rail.

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    The Map of the Day in Post 278 is a no-brainer, they own a ROW from Redondo to Long Beach. Extend the Green and Crenshaw lines to Long Beach!

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Just go get a history of Red Car and Yellow Car route maps from 1900 through 1950s, and railroad siding maps from 1900 to today, and you can see where all the reasonable grades are - Many of the ROW's are either still open or fairly easily reclaimed.

    And most of those routes were placed where they were because they connected areas where people lived to where they worked, shopped and had recreation facilities, and those dynamics haven't changed all that much.

    Only thing being we want to get there faster, and multitask on cellphones and iPods on the way.

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Doesn't the Exposition Right Of Way wind through a single story residential neighborhood in that section? Multistory buildings would be unsuitable - but Sepulveda and Venice boulevards are congested enough without surface level rail.
    Venice has a huge center median in that section, which I assume was an old Redcar ROW, so that could work. Sepulveda seems like it would be a problem, it's not that wide and very busy.

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    I did a photo shoot at a studio near the Culver City Phase I terminus of the Expo line about a month ago. But I didn't follow along to see where the construction would continue. It's confusing enough to drive around in that area. The streets are a mess, no doubt due to the presence of obsolete rail line ROWs.

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