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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Metro to Conduct Seismic Tests for Subway in Century City, Westwood

    Metro to Conduct Seismic Tests for Subway in Century City, Westwood - LAist

    Next week, Metro will begin doing seismic tests in some Westside neighborhoods as they prepare to build the "Subway to the Sea" project, reports the agency's blog. Work will begin Monday and last for four nights.

    "Data gathered from these investigations is part of the necessary environmental work to identify the best locations of subway tunnels and stations in the area," explained Metro CEO Art Leahy in a memo to staff. "This work must be conducted at night to minimize interference from traffic vibrations and reduce potential traffic disruptions along heavily traveled Santa Monica Boulevard. Any disturbance experienced by area residents should be minimal and for a very brief duration."

    Under the current plan, the subway would open in 2019... with stops up to Fairfax, only.
    (Unless we get a Federal loan, and get the whole extension opened by 2019.)

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Waiting for Multi-Year Legislation - Bond Buyer Article

    Waiting for Multi-Year Legislation

    Transportation May Wait Until 2011

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    Nice video, it illustrates how effectively LA is making transit "cool" in So Cal.
    European visitors who come here to see the sites are increasingly finding a euro style system of buses, trains, and trams that can get them everywhere they want to go. Now we need more discretionary riders to commute to and from work on the system, and get more cars off the roads.
    The trains are pretty full during the rush hours.
    Cutting the area's population by 50% would help get more cars off the road. No plans for that as of yet.

    One thing that cuts the number of trains on the Red Line is that the Red/Purple lines run on the same tracks for part of their length.
    I think capacity could be increased, maybe 40%, by changing the schedule so that purple line passengers have to switch trains at Vermont. There are only two more stations, anyway. Just have a train waiting for each Red Line train that comes.

    Red Line runs every 10 minutes at peak, because the Purple Line is also running every ten minutes.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Why not run the Purple line every 15 or 20 min then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Why not run the Purple line every 15 or 20 min then?
    My way gets everyone where they want to be, faster. Might cost more money. I haven't run the analysis. Plus, a train with three stops might take more time switching directions than traveling.

    I figure there must be a lot more people riding the Red Line, as it covers more area, it goes through a very car-busy pass, and has more stops. Why not service it more than the Currently-Short Purple Line?
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Good point, I just don't see them adding a transfer, when they want to build the "REGIONAL CONNECTOR" to avoid people having to transfer trains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Good point, I just don't see them adding a transfer, when they want to build the "REGIONAL CONNECTOR" to avoid people having to transfer trains.
    Meh. Merge the Red and Purple tickets. I..e., no additional expense.

    Transferring beats waiting. And when I have to wait up to 20 minutes after a Kings game to catch the Red Line (already 10:30PM), naturally I have plenty of idle time to think about ways to improve things.
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    Public transit would take $1-billion hit in proposed state budget

    Posted by Steve Hymon on January 8, 2010 - 12:06 pm

    State officials are still announcing details of the proposed state budget to close a $19.9-billion deficit in the current and next year’s budget. Here’s what the L.A. Times is reporting about the budget’s impact on public transportation:
    One of the proposed budget’s biggest losers is public transit — and its riders. Through a complex gas tax swap, which would simultaneously eliminate the sales tax on gas and raise the per-gallon excise tax, roughly $1 billion would be siphoned off from bus and rail funds.
    The shift would gut Proposition 42, a voter-approved measure that determines how gas tax money is currently split. Mass transit, which now receives 20% of the taxes, would be cut out of the equation. Drivers would pay slightly less at the pump.
    UPDATE: In an attempt to explain the above proposed swap, state officials said that consumers would see a five cent reduction in the taxes they pay at the pump.
    UPDATE #2: Here’s how the Sacramento Bee explains the budget’s plan for transportation funding:
    The state’s current 6 percent sales tax on a gallon of gasoline would be dropped, and replaced by a 10.8-cent increase in per-gallon excise taxes. Administration officials estimate the overall impact would be a 6-cent-per-gallon reduction in gas prices. The seemingly arcane switch would allow the state to legally cut the money it must currently pay to local governments for transportation programs, and to schools. That’s because the sales tax revenues from gasoline are part of voter-approved formulas that determine how much the transportation and schools get from the state.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    Metro to Conduct Seismic Tests for Subway in Century City, Westwood

    Metro to Conduct Seismic Tests for Subway in Century City, Westwood - LAist

    (Unless we get a Federal loan, and get the whole extension opened by 2019.)
    Hope that the seismic tests move along quicky.. and without running into undue unexpected expenses. It makes good public safety and PR sense to conduct the tests (and do other work) and night.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by sediment View Post
    My way gets everyone where they want to be, faster. Might cost more money. I haven't run the analysis. Plus, a train with three stops might take more time switching directions than traveling.

    I figure there must be a lot more people riding the Red Line, as it covers more area, it goes through a very car-busy pass, and has more stops. Why not service it more than the Currently-Short Purple Line?
    Fewer stops prior to switching tracks does sound like a time saver.. especially if higher density riders lay ahead on the shared track. You should give them your suggestion, sediment.. or have CA do it.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Public transit would take $1-billion hit in proposed state budget

    Posted by Steve Hymon on January 8, 2010 - 12:06 pm

    State officials are still announcing details of the proposed state budget to close a $19.9-billion deficit in the current and next year’s budget. Here’s what the L.A. Times is reporting about the budget’s impact on public transportation:
    One of the proposed budget’s biggest losers is public transit — and its riders. Through a complex gas tax swap, which would simultaneously eliminate the sales tax on gas and raise the per-gallon excise tax, roughly $1 billion would be siphoned off from bus and rail funds.
    The shift would gut Proposition 42, a voter-approved measure that determines how gas tax money is currently split. Mass transit, which now receives 20% of the taxes, would be cut out of the equation. Drivers would pay slightly less at the pump.
    UPDATE: In an attempt to explain the above proposed swap, state officials said that consumers would see a five cent reduction in the taxes they pay at the pump.
    UPDATE #2: Here’s how the Sacramento Bee explains the budget’s plan for transportation funding:
    The state’s current 6 percent sales tax on a gallon of gasoline would be dropped, and replaced by a 10.8-cent increase in per-gallon excise taxes. Administration officials estimate the overall impact would be a 6-cent-per-gallon reduction in gas prices. The seemingly arcane switch would allow the state to legally cut the money it must currently pay to local governments for transportation programs, and to schools. That’s because the sales tax revenues from gasoline are part of voter-approved formulas that determine how much the transportation and schools get from the state.
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    As I said before, the state could roll over on LA's transit efforts. Looks like it found a way to remove it's financing without LA being able to complain that they are being isolated. Another peave I have is over school financing being tied into that of public transportation. Tha shcools receive over half of the state tax dollars as it is.. and failing schools at that. Mass transit should have rceived all of the money from the gas tax.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    The voters have spoken, we want want significant transportation infrastructure construction, and we are willing to tax ourselves to pay for it.

    Leave the funds alone and move ahead now so we can enjoy the benefits of mobility and interconnectivity in our lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride Warrior View Post
    Fewer stops prior to switching tracks does sound like a time saver.. especially if higher density riders lay ahead on the shared track. You should give them your suggestion, sediment.. or have CA do it.
    Thanks. The current method is to have shorter trains for the Purple Line, longer trains for the Red Line. That still means some people have to wait up to 20 minutes for a train if they just miss one.

    C.A. takes care of all my suggestions. Right??
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    They're on file, sediment

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    Re: Mass Transit in Vancouver, BC

    Just for comparison's sake...

    Vancouver engineers its own urban dream - latimes.com

    [William Rees] and one of his students at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver in the 1990s pioneered a way of measuring the connection between human population and its consumption of resources. It's known as the "ecological footprint." Ominously, Rees found that the 2.2 million people who live in the Vancouver region would need an area 57 times larger than their own city to sustain them. Indeed, if everyone on Earth lived as people in Vancouver did, Rees calculated, it would take four planets to keep them alive.

    That message resonated, and it changed Rees' adopted city. To a degree probably unmatched anywhere else in North America, the city of Vancouver has tried to impose notions of sustainability in its decisions on what, where and how to build.

    The result has come to be known as "Vancouverism," an urban motif of public transit instead of freeways, a low-carbon energy infrastructure and gleaming high-rise condominium towers in sunlit, walkable neighborhoods laced with urban parks.

    The 2010 Winter Olympic Games next month provide a showcase for how Vancouver is trying to evolve. A $1-billion development that houses the athletes' village generates up to 70% of its power from converted sewage, and the vaulted ceiling of the Richmond speed-skating venue emphasizes that most renewable of resources, wood.

    Over the last 20 years, Vancouver has managed to more than double the number of people living downtown while also reducing its carbon emissions per capita to the lowest levels of any big city in North America. The central city has refused to allow a single freeway and recently began to further tighten the noose around automobiles, closing lanes on crowded streets in favor of buses, bikes and sidewalks.

    The city has hit up developers to build parks, recreation centers, libraries, day-care centers, and open, public waterfronts to a degree almost unknown anywhere else.

    When other cities were erecting warehouse-style retail outlets in the hinterlands, Vancouver built its Costco right downtown -- the first urban Costco in the world, with four 40-story residential towers rising from the top. There's a boutique Home Depot not far away and a Safeway that squats on a second floor, above smaller street-level shops.

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