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    Orange Line Extension News

    While people gnash their teeth over the Expo Line or debate stations on the Wilshire subway, the Orange Line just puts its head down and gets to work. The Daily News reports that the busway's construction authority is tearing down buildings to make way for the four-mile extension, and adjacent bike path, to Chatsworth. Demolition will be done in about three weeks, while excavation for a new bridge on Lassen Street is underway. Designs for the four new stations, landscaping, and bike paths are being decided as we speak. [Daily News]
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    California HSR News

    To date, private investors aren't exactly stepping up to help fund the $40 billion plus California High-Speed Rail project, reports the Fresno Bee, but rail backers are staying optimistic: "There is a risk" of spending the planning money without ever building the rail, said David Crane, a rail board member and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's economic adviser. "But it's a governable risk and there's enormous upside associated with taking that risk." Click through the handy pie chart. So far, CHSR has raised a quarter of that $40 billion.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    bump

    Just noticed that there is a late Amtrak train from Fullerton to LA Union Station. 12:30AM!!
    On Friday and Sunday, there is an 11:15PM train from Anaheim (11:26PM from Fullerton, and on other days there is a 10:18PM train from Anaheim (10:29PM from Fullerton).

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    [Anywho, it looks good. Can't wait for whatever plans there are to connect to Disneyland. Shuttle buses? Yawn! Extension of monorail? PeopleMover underground?[/QUOTE]

    There was a big stink up here in the SF Bay Area when they tried to get BART to go right to the Oakland airport. Made sense from a passenger point of view. But no, they could not figure it out. So we have shuttle busses. Nothing like hauling luggage 2-3 times around.

    Was Walt's vision of the Monorail as an attraction or as possible mass transit? the current trains hardly hold any people to make it worth it, but it would not hurt to get Disney involved in getting people to and from the transit hub to the park.

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by patton45 View Post
    [Anywho, it looks good. Can't wait for whatever plans there are to connect to Disneyland. Shuttle buses? Yawn! Extension of monorail? PeopleMover underground?
    There was a big stink up here in the SF Bay Area when they tried to get BART to go right to the Oakland airport. Made sense from a passenger point of view. But no, they could not figure it out. So we have shuttle busses. Nothing like hauling luggage 2-3 times around.

    Was Walt's vision of the Monorail as an attraction or as possible mass transit? the current trains hardly hold any people to make it worth it, but it would not hurt to get Disney involved in getting people to and from the transit hub to the park.

    Craig[/QUOTE]
    For Oakland Airport, I see there are a few smaller runways to the northeast, which might need clearance (Clarence). Then to the southeast there are wetlands which probably house some endangered species. Since it's near sea level, a below-ground trench will not be viable.
    Maybe the whole thing underground, from The BART? You get off at The BART, then an escalator takes you 100 feet underground to the driverless system that goes in a circle, from the Two BART stations to Oakland, then back.

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    Would Anyone Use a SF-LA High-Speed Rail Line? Is It Practical?



    Would Anyone Use a SF-LA High-Speed Rail Line? Is It Practical? - SFist

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    Would Anyone Use a SF-LA High-Speed Rail Line? Is It Practical?



    Would Anyone Use a SF-LA High-Speed Rail Line? Is It Practical? - SFist
    there would be people. But it wouldn't be anywhere near the number required to make it viable or to pay itself off.
    LA-Vegas might, though.

    Also, what makes anyone think that TSA wouldn't eventually get involved with the train services? A buh- on a train could be just as terrorismy as one on a plane.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    I'd use it to make a getaway to San Francisco. You don't need a car at that end of the line. I could get on a train at 8 or 9 or 10 at night, and not drive over the Grapevine or along a long stretch of big rig highway in the dark. It would make it more practical if I walked on in Burbank and got out on Market Street and switched to any number of SF transit options available there.

    Now if 30-10 gets approved, in 2021 we'll have some sort of system in place on the LA side that will rival San Francisco's. This could form a connection between many farflung California cities and boost intrastate tourism.

    So it's a good thing for our state. Not so much a train to the Vegas casinos to drain funds out of our state.

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by sediment View Post
    there would be people. But it wouldn't be anywhere near the number required to make it viable or to pay itself off.
    LA-Vegas might, though.

    Also, what makes anyone think that TSA wouldn't eventually get involved with the train services? A buh- on a train could be just as terrorismy as one on a plane.

    A plane is in a secured environment once off the ground, so as long as you prevent anything from getting on the plane it remains secured.

    A trains entire trip is in an unsecured and uncontrolled environment, you can screen the passengers but it will be a waste considering the track wont be secured and protected 24/7 along the entire line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmith11618 View Post
    A plane is in a secured environment once off the ground, so as long as you prevent anything from getting on the plane it remains secured.

    A trains entire trip is in an unsecured and uncontrolled environment, you can screen the passengers but it will be a waste considering the track wont be secured and protected 24/7 along the entire line.
    Now that is a great recommendation for more rail service!

    Reasonably good thing about it is that it's all (trains, tracks, etc.) somewhat easily replaceable if a terrorist act occurs; and they generally don't run into anything extremely valuable (like a 100-story building) except possibly whatever is at the end of a line.

    Still, gotta wonder about those passenger estimates.

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    Boxer renews commitment to Villaraigosa's 30/10 transit plan

    Facing attacks on her effectiveness from rival Fiorina, the U.S. senator said she is working on getting Congress to help make funds available for key Southern California transportation projects.

    Boxer renews commitment to Villaraigosa's 30/10 transit plan - latimes.com

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    A $154-million system of locking turnstiles installed at L.A. County's subways and light rail stations may be turning into a financial boondoggle, according to a report in the Los Angeles Daily News.

    At least a third of the money spent on the system may have been wasted because the turnstiles cannot be locked until the Metropolitan Transit Authority fully converts to an electronic transit pass system, the newspaper reports.

    But a lot of riders are still using paper tickets, and many other transit systems, such as municipal bus services, have been slow to adopt the electronic cards.

    The turnstiles were installed to stop fare scofflaws and end the honor-based system. The new system was predicted to save $13 million a year in lost revenue and reduced inspector costs. The turnstiles were Installed under a $46-million contract.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    That West Santa Ana Branch Corridor looks pretty familiar...

    It just needs to turn left at Beach Blvd along the right-of-way between Cerritos and Katella Avenues (toward Disneyland) instead of what seesm to be Westminster/West 17th or 1st Street in Santa Ana.

    How come I've never heard of this project before?
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    We've talked about Metro's plans for it before. They're describing it as "commuter rail" which confuses me, doesn't that mean METROLINK-AMTRAK service, as opposed to a "light rail" line... Unless they mean full size trains like the Red Line, but I don't think they'll build a subway to Santa Ana.

    I like the grey dashed "proposals" in there, too! Not only do I support 30/10 and Measure R, I'm ready to vote for Measure S and do a second wave.

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