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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    The Gold Line wasn't even envisioned when the old train tracks went out of service though.

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    It's good to hear Mr. LaBonge suggesting all of those things. It's funny how many of the things he's talking about have been discussed in this thread already.
    Councilman Tom LaBonge Draws His Fantasy Metro Map

    Being The Daily News, LaBonge made a big play for extending the Red Line subway further into the Valley, specifically underground to Victory and Laurel Canyon boulevards and then above ground on the 170 and then along the 5 to Santa Clarita (don't hold your breath).

    LaBonge also wants the Gold Line extended westward to Glendale and Griffith Park, and eventually to the Burbank airport. As previously mentioned, LaBonge wants the subway to extend into the Arts District, which is a nice idea, but the Gold Line already skirts its border in Little Tokyo, so it probably wouldn't be a big priority to Metro.

    The USC Express? More Thoughts from LaBonge.>>>>

    LaBonge also calls for a subway line connecting the station at Koreatown to USC via Vermont--both the subway connection to Bob Hope airport and the Vermont subway are unfunded projects included in Metro's long range transportation plan, so basically they're on Metro's radar but far off from fruition.
    Councilman Tom LaBonge Draws His Fantasy Metro Map : LA Circa 2090 : Curbed LA

    Red Line Into Arts District and How About More Residential?

    The group said the streets in the area should be improved immediately, but they also had a lot to say on rail--they suggested consolidating lines, putting freight on the east side of the river, and Amtrak and High-Speed rail (which'll go through the area) on the west side. They also want to see the Red Line extended and three stops added, at Fourth, Seventh, and Olympic, which according to blogdowntown, they say "would allow the area to support thousands of new residential units."
    Red Line Into Arts District and How About More Residential? : Industrial Arts District : Curbed LA

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    On the other end of the U shaped Gold Line is the Eastside Extension...

    No, We Want It! Politicians Argue for Gold Line in Their Neighborhood

    Check out the map!

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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    On the other end of the U shaped Gold Line is the Eastside Extension...

    No, We Want It! Politicians Argue for Gold Line in Their Neighborhood

    Check out the map!
    I don't see a map.
    There will likely be enough loud voices to change politicians' minds, if it affets re-election chances.
    Each city wants a stop, too.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    It seems odd that Metro is like "We have this train. We want to extend it somewhere out in this direction. What do you all think?"

    Rather than, it's a priority to get this train to point B, and this is the best way to get there.

    It's like the downtown trolley. "Uh, there's federal money for this, we might as well put one in." Rather than "We really need this and we need the fed's help."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    I didn't scoll over the link. Stupid me. (I expect them to be blue and underlined. Not Bold Black.)

    They'll probably do both, which will inevitably lead to less-frequent trains for each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    It seems odd that Metro is like "We have this train. We want to extend it somewhere out in this direction. What do you all think?"

    Rather than, it's a priority to get this train to point B, and this is the best way to get there.

    It's like the downtown trolley. "Uh, there's federal money for this, we might as well put one in." Rather than "We really need this and we need the fed's help."
    Passive policy, due to getting bitten too often by NIMBYs. They likely know which one will help curb the most traffic (in 20 years or so), at least know better than residents with no urban planning degrees.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by sediment View Post

    They'll probably do both, which will inevitably lead to less-frequent trains for each.
    That's what I was thinking. However, I prefer the Whittier line. Unless they build that Santa Ana line. I didn't really think that the Santa Ana line was a serious contender until recently, I think it depends on whether they acheive cost savings through 30/10.

    Quote Originally Posted by sediment View Post
    Passive policy, due to getting bitten too often by NIMBYs. They likely know which one will help curb the most traffic (in 20 years or so), at least know better than residents with no urban planning degrees.

    Hmmm. Meanwhile, here's a smart move:

    Fifth and Flower Stop May Get Axed from Downtown Connector
    (click it, click it, click it)

    Additionally, Dana Gabbard, executive secretary for the Southern California Transit Advocates, tells the paper that the "four stations along a two-mile path would likely slow trains down, Gabbard said. “At that point you’re not really talking about rapid transit,” he said. “It’s more this slow-pokey thing that doesn’t really have time and the distance to pick up any speed.”
    We don't want no stinkin' slow-pokey thing!

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    Four stops in two miles? WALK TO THE STATION!!!!
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    China and Japan Want to Build and Finance California's High Speed Rail System

    Before Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger leaves office this year, he'd like to leave a legacy and one that isn't poisoned by that "deficit" word. Too late on that one. He could, however, leave somewhat of a mark on the development of high speed rail. At the very least, he's trying really hard.

    Back in June he announced a vision of having a demonstration high speed line between L.A. and San Diego by year's end. Talk of that has all but dissipated but the Governor's trip to Asia this week -- with high speed rail staff in tow -- is providing news about the project, which would sweep travelers between San Francisco and Los Angeles in about two and a half hours.

    After a 73-minute high speed trip from Nanjing to Shanghai on Sunday, Schwarzenegger announced California will be accepting bids from the country to build the railway. "We look to China to build our high speed rail, to be part of the bidding process that we are going to go through," he said. "Many countries will be bidding to build our high-speed rail, (and we plan) also to look for financing from China."

    Then the Governor on Monday headed to Japan to ride another bullet train and hear their proposal to build and loan money for the $40 billion project.

    "There’s quite a debate between Chinese and Japanese HSR operators about which system is better for California," noted Robert Cruickshank, who follows the project in depth at his blog. "This trip isn’t likely to settle that debate, but clearly China has been busily lobbying the governor’s office and the CHSRA."
    And add to that South Korea, where the Governor headed next. Bidding, which is likely to open up in late 2011, is expected to come from European companies as well. Groundbreaking on the railway could begin in 2012.
    China and Japan Want to Build and Finance California's High Speed Rail System - LAist

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    Excellent work, Governator. Only a lame duck politician could pull this off.
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    ~Demonstration line from LA to San Diego~.........I remember a Popular Science mag cover story about this...................in 1985!

    Jeeeesh.......maybe by the time my son has his great grandchildren we'll see this(grrrr)
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    I'll save you a seat.

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    ^Thanks, and forgive my impatience but I am still waiting for my flying car
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