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    Republican Wave Could Spell Trouble for High-Speed Rail Projects from Coast to Coast


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    Well, it is fiscally responsible, else private companies would have done it by now.
    Find a way to pay for it without general tax increases for us or our grandchildren. I prefer to tax gasoline.
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    Well, it is fiscally responsible, else private companies would have done it by now.
    Find a way to pay for it without general tax increases for us or our grandchildren. I prefer to tax gasoline.
    High Speed intercity rail would have positive long-lasting benefits. It's an easy thing to pay for - all we have to do is stop spending on stupid stuff like Bridges To Nowhere, and punching a freeway through open farmland so the Senator that owns a huge tract of land has a new freeway and three off-ramp interchanges for access roads. There are many more highway projects that would benefit the public, we just have to prune the boondoggles.

    And cranking up gasoline taxes isn't the way to go - some wonks in San Francisco want to crank gasoline up to $9 a gallon and charge $4,500 a year average in User Fees to drive your cars on public roads, ostensibly to "discourage private cars" - but all it would do is strangle businesses that need to drive to the customer and deliver their services and products.

    And it would strangle lots of smaller towns that don't have a large enough local jobs base - people would have no choice but to walk away from their mortgages in the suburbs (creating ghost towns) and move to where the jobs are. And with their credit ruined, they'd have to rent, and there are massive ripple effects from that.

    If you want to create Public Works jobs, create massive nation-wide aqueduct and irrigation systems to transport water, and mass water storage systems to rival Hoover Dam - when the Ohio and Mississippi and other big rivers would normally flood, send a portion of that nice fresh water off to be injected into the ground water table in the nearby states, and some off to distant desert states for storage, and then extracted as necessary for use throughout the year.

    We get far too much rain (or snow that eventually melts) in some areas and not enough in others, and that can be cured. Some flooding is beneficial, like in the Mississippi Delta, but too much is still too much. And with urban areas all paved and storm-drains to carry the water away rather than let it soak in, you have to deliberately bank away the water supplies for a dry day.

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    High Speed Rail gets people to work.

    Now, building it, and later, riding it.

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    More delays plague Expo Line

    The first rail system to the Westside in decades will open later than planned and cover a shorter — and still undetermined — route.


    More delays plague Expo Line - latimes.com

    The Expo Line, billed as the L.A.'s first rail system into the Westside since the Red Car trolleys disappeared decades ago, was supposed to be whisking commuters between Culver City and downtown Los Angeles.

    But instead, a series of delays has pushed the opening of the first phase of the rail line to next summer. And even then, only part of the line will be open and trains won't reach the Westside.

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    Pink Line Dreams: WeHo Hires Lobbyist to Get Some Subway Action

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    a WeHo spur (often called the Pink Line by proponents) would add $2.7 billion to that price tag (a 17.5 mile subway line that went all the way to Santa Monica and WeHo would cost $8.4 billion, according to Metro). The WeHo line would make the project more expensive than what is currently set aside for the Westside subway in Measure R funds, so a lot of government money would be needed to make it happen. West Hollywood is undeterred though, and has spent $64,000 on a lobbyist to convince Metro to add the WeHo spur to their recommended route, reports the WeHo News.

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    Villaraigosa Back in D.C., Wants Transit Money for L.A. - LAist

    It's round two for Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. He's in Washington D.C. today rallying for rail in a Senate committee meeting, says KPCC. Last week he did the same in the House of Representatives.

    It's all about his 30/10 vision, which would take 12 projects -- the Westside Subway for example -- planned for completion within 30 years and finish them within 10 years with a $30 billion bridge loan from the federal government. L.A. County can guarantee paying it back because of Measure R, the 2008 voter-iniatied half-cent sales tax increase that pays for transportation projects.

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    Critics ask attorney general to investigate state rail officials who also hold local offices

    September 28, 2010

    Critics of the California high-speed rail project Tuesday urged the state attorney general to investigate whether two prominent officials in Los Angeles and Anaheim have conflicts of interest because they sit on the bullet train’s board of directors while holding other public offices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliforniaAdventurer View Post
    WTF! Local public office holders that also hold positions on public service related boards! Unheard of...













    Conflicts of interest such as this completely demerit the credibility of the public sector. Not. Sitting on boards is a large part of what representatives do. A good official doesn't push things forward at any cost. They guage when it is fiscally advantageous and when it is not Broad sweeping lame azzed cynisism such as this only shows a petty agenda to destroy high speed rail no matter what...without due objectivity.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    Republican Wave Could Spell Trouble for High-Speed Rail Projects from Coast to Coast


    Republican Wave Could Spell Trouble for High-Speed Rail Projects from Coast to Coast The Transport Politic

    I like your idea of taxing energy, sediment. That uttered, I think an overall energy mix tax would be more doable, financially productive and fair. Tax green alternative energy at the same rate as gasoline, nuclear, coal, etc.

    As for troublesome adversty generated by Republicans opposing high-speed rail, this is unfortunately true...generally speeking. However, I take pride in the fact that I have been able to help hsr officials bring a couple of Republican elected officials on board in the Central Valley. A county supervisor and a city mayor (vying for a state senate seat) are proponents of hsr.
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

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    Republican Wave Could Spell Trouble for High-Speed Rail Projects from Coast to Coast The Transport Politic

    I like your idea of taxing energy, sediment. That uttered, I think an overall energy mix tax would be more doable, financially productive and fair. Tax green alternative energy at the same rate as gasoline, nuclear, coal, etc.
    Hmm, we're not running out of sun, wind, or even nuclear energies.
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    Looks like ARTIC is cleared for construction to start in 2011.
    Can't find a reasonable link. I got an e-mail about it.
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    Anaheim City Council Certifies Environmental Impact Report for the Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center (ARTIC)

    At last night's City Council meeting, City Council members certified the Environmental Impact Report (EIR) and approved a General Plan Amendment reclassifying Douglass Road, south of Katella Avenue from a local street to a secondary arterial. On September 13, the City of Anaheim Planning Commission conducted a public hearing and recommended the items be approved by the City Council.

    The ARTIC Project will inject approximately $184 million into the local economy and will create 5,000 new jobs. Full development will take place over the next decade. Construction is set to begin in 2011.

    The ARTIC Project is envisioned as an iconic regional landmark and transportation facility where people will seamlessly move between transit services to reach Southern California activity centers and business districts.
    The station will accommodate passenger arrivals, departures and transfers with supporting retail, restaurants and passenger services within the building. ARTIC will be built on a 16-acre site owned by the Orange County Transportation Authority (OCTA) and the City of Anaheim
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    Re: Mass Transit 2 the Disneyland Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Bergman View Post
    If you want to create Public Works jobs, create massive nation-wide aqueduct and irrigation systems to transport water, and mass water storage systems to rival Hoover Dam - when the Ohio and Mississippi and other big rivers would normally flood, send a portion of that nice fresh water off to be injected into the ground water table in the nearby states, and some off to distant desert states for storage, and then extracted as necessary for use throughout the year.

    We get far too much rain (or snow that eventually melts) in some areas and not enough in others, and that can be cured. Some flooding is beneficial, like in the Mississippi Delta, but too much is still too much. And with urban areas all paved and storm-drains to carry the water away rather than let it soak in, you have to deliberately bank away the water supplies for a dry day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sediment View Post
    Hmm, we're not running out of sun, wind, or even nuclear energies.
    We should be relying far more on nuclear...if it wasn't for the controlling death grip that environmentalists have. Solar and wind technology is not developed for the needs of the public en masse...nor will it be for a couple of decades at the earliest earliest. Again, they are an important part of the overall energy mix. Petroleum based energy is pragmatic for the present...in terms of our energy needs enmass, affordability...and as a proven private sector industry that employs hundreds of thousands without any need for government stimulus.

    Tax all energy for the purpose of financing and expediting High Speed Rail. An isolated gas tax would not fly with the majority of the public. Instead of this "us vs. them" brick wall attitude, liberal and conservative solutions need to merge. That's what I call progressive.
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