They might. The reason is that many studies of energy efficiency by mode often make questionable and — depending on the author’s point of view — self-serving assumptions.
Which the author goes on to do over and over again. Not so smart.
You'll have to refute them one at a time.
Oh, and point out his self-servingness.
Looks like Measure J didn't get a 2/3 majority needed to pass.
And to get you to Anaheim:
"It is the project of the century," said UC Berkeley civil engineering professor Bill Ibbs, who has worked on other high-speed rail systems around the world.
The sheer scale and scope of the bullet train's push into Southern California, including traversing complex seismic hazards, would rival construction of the state's massive freeway system, water transport networks and its port complexes. It is likely to be viewed in future decades as an engineering marvel — or a costly folly. If nothing else, it is ambitious.
The plan calls for bullet trains to shoot east from Bakersfield at 220 mph, climbing one of the steepest sustained high-speed rail inclines in the world. It would soar over canyons on viaducts as high as a 33-story skyscraper. The line would duck in and out of tunnels up to 500 feet below the rugged surface. It would cross more than half a dozen earthquake faults heading toward L.A.
That link doesn't work.
Yes, it might take a century to build it.
I'm predicting costly folly.
Perhaps following the I-5 corridor would be more cost effective - but there are two reasons for following the CA-14 corridor, and including a stop in Palmdale:
1. Politics: Mike Antonovich/Zev Yaraslavsky
2. Connection to future Palmdale-Vegas HSR.
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SoCal Bullet Train Route: Skycraper-Tall Viaducts, 500-Foot Deep Tunnels, One of the Steepest Grades in the World - High-Speed Rail - Curbed LA
I never been a fan of mass transit. But the Freakonomics article does point out some of the areas where mass transit makes sense, i.e. where parking is a premium. The Anaheim resort area definitely fits the bill as an area where parking is at a premium.
Though the stories I read talk about a trolley from the new transit center to the DLR. While a trolley is cute does it have the capacity to move enough people especially at peak times? A trolley would be overwhelmed at park opening/closing.
Realistically if employees and guests are going to use regional mass transit to get to the Resort, they are going to need a high capacity mass transit system that connects the new Transit Center to the resort area (and stadia).
Te probability is not very small. Approximately every 2.5 minutes, a train will cross the fault. Large earthquakes last over a minute. So, if an earthquake occurs, there will certainly be trains nearby the fault and possibly nearing one.Quote:
At full speed, however, a bullet train would need four to five miles to make an emergency stop on level ground, and longer going downhill. The probability of an earthquake occurring as a train is going over a fault is "very small," Gillam said. Some experts, however, say the probability is not inconsequential, considering high-speed trains are expected to be running as frequently as every five minutes in each direction.
It's a risk everyone is going to have to take, especially at the current price tag.
So, yeah, I-5 would be a lot more cost effective, but no one seems to care about the cost but me. If it's successful, then sure, make a spur line out to Palmdale as the first leg to Las Vegas.
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The number of trains could and would be expected to increase if ridership demands it.
Would they be putting the rail down the middle of Katella? Seems only logical. there is a nice greenbelt there, but progress demands it.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who go to the balls game would like the option of easy transportation to the Resort and back, either before the game or after. Yes, someone will lose parking money. Boo freaking hoo.
It's reported the train will be in the right lanes. This makes a lot of sense compared to median trains since this train may unload a lot of people at its few stops rather than handfulls every blocks or two. Imagine when people are going to, the baseball stadium, the disney parks, and the convention center, versus office buildings.
I see a side effect which will increase ridership. If this is built, and better rail is built to Anaheim, over by the ARTIC station is a great place for hotels. You can get to the hotel on a big train and use the little train to get to the parks and Convention Center.
The Ayres Inn is nice to stay in but I don't think it would be as cheap, and probably have some neighbor hotels.
As someone who started this thread and its predecessor to generate enthusiasm and interest in connecting Anaheim to the rest of the country by rail, it's gratifying to not only see progress in this regard but also Micechatters getting "on board"!
All of Disney's foreign parks have train stations near the front gates.
Disneyland is a big "toy train track", as the author of PragmaticIdealist's article points out, there was never a greater train enthusiast than Walt. Can't help thinking he'd be proud.
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PS: For the Harbor Blvd portion of the track, I hope Disney offers part of the former parking lot tram driveway to the streetcar right of way.
The street cars will take away a small bit of demand from ART.
Also wondering why the plan shows it going to Convention Way and not down it to the Convention Center Entrance. It may have to do with turning them around.
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What will the new Transportation Secretary think?