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    Re: Baseball 2009

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    Do you deny that what Beane did in the early 2000's was successful, to a point? Winning lots of games, making the playoffs, showing a profit in a "small-town" market? Do you think it would have been possible without the statistical data he amassed?
    No doubt that he was successful, the emphasis being on "to a point".

    They never did that well in the playoffs, although I've never quite understood, on the unbelievable Jeter relay play, why Jeremy Giambi did not slide. That might have changed everything, at least for that series.

    Having read MoneyBall, I was aware of Paul DiPodesta, and was not surprised (yet a bit horrified for some reason) when the cash-strapped McCourts first hired him to be GM of the Dodgers. The approach may have been a hit in Oakland, but didn't play as well in L.A.

    Stats are indeed important. I don't think Tony La Russa would have done as well as he has without all those computer printouts. But they, as you pointed out, give you the whole picture, by a long shot.

    As for the manager of the year, I ordinarily would be okay with a Gardenhire. The reason I think Sciosia should win is the way that he held the team together amidst not only a rash of injuries, but the season-long impact of the Nick Adenhart tragedy.

    Kudos certainly to Girardi for the way he has piloted that team. Having the best players doesn't always work. He apparently has been able to keep the egos in check, and driven to a common goal.

    Mike Sciosia is the best manager in all of baseball period, by the way.

    And Angel fans, I know the team was once considered "small market", but in 2009 they are hardly the Sisters of the Poor themselves in payroll.
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    Re: Baseball 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Radiobarry View Post
    Mike Sciosia is the best manager in all of baseball period, by the way.
    Not showing any fan bias or anything are ya Barry?
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    Re: Baseball 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear View Post
    Not showing any fan bias or anything are ya Barry?
    No. I am an Angel fan. But I don't think that statement is a result of bias.
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    Re: Baseball 2009

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear View Post
    Girardi might get some votes, but he won't win. Too many writers are transfixed on the Yankees salary.
    While not a Yankees fan by any means, I think managing a team with as many high priced players as they have, along with the massive egos, press coverage, and the Steinbrenners, deserves more than a little amount of credit. Certainly the job has eaten up a fair number of otherwise excellent people.

    On the MVP side, I think it's going to be Pujols and Mauer.

    I'm still working through my picks for Cy Young and Rookie...

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