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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

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    And the Toronto Blue Jays as well as the Cleveland Indians will be going retro-style. The tribe will have a 1950's home alt uniform, while the Jays will have the replica of the 1977 baby blue road uniforms...with pullover jerseys and knit-in belts!

    Little League unis IMHO.
    Looks like everyone is going retro.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    BREAKING NEWS:

    The Angels trade Orlando Cabrera to the White Sox for John Garland.

    I know there's a lot of Halos' fans on here. What do you think of this trade?

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    It sucks.

    I am so angry right now.

    OC was a clubhouse leader. And he just won the Gold Glove.

    They just raised my season tickets for 2008 by 30% and then get rid of one of our best players.

    Idiots.
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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    I had this feeling when I saw it, that this gives the Angels another veteran pitcher to absorb trading pitching to Florida for Cabrera. I can't see trading away Cabrera otherwise.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    If this is the only trade the Angels make, it's horrible. I have to think it's the precursor to a much bigger trade. OC was on the up and Garland had an average season. I grade this trade an incomplete because right now, it doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    This is a pre cursor to try and get Miguel Cabrera. In case they ship out some young arms they have someone to fill in. We have mentioned this deal before but the main sticking point is Howie Kendrick FLA wants him and LAA says no.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy38 View Post
    This is a pre cursor to try and get Miguel Cabrera. In case they ship out some young arms they have someone to fill in. We have mentioned this deal before but the main sticking point is Howie Kendrick FLA wants him and LAA says no.
    I agree Grump. I just hope the trade is already in their hip pocket so they don't get caught with their pants down. Losing a great teamates is not a good start for a new GM.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    When I first heard about this trade today, I almost drove off the road. A team in need of offense trading one of its best hitters, for a pitcher maybe past his prime.

    For a moment I thought I was in a time warp, and Mike Port and Bil Bavasi were back running the team.

    I sure hope you guys are right and that something bigger is coming.

    They'll miss OC's glove and speed at shortstop nonetheless.
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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    I hear ya Barry,

    I'm sure you remember well, but the Angels have been trying to get Garland for the last 5 years. In fact, there was a deal on the table to get Garland for Erstad.

    I'm holding tight to my wait and see approach. One thing I hate to see is with the Angels top notch staff and solid bullpen, getting rid of a guy that is probably the best fielding SS in the game.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    The Phils are going to go after a third baseman NOT named Scott Rolen.

    Nor Mike Lowell, who left money on the table to resign with Bahstahn.

    Maybe they'll pull the blockbuster and get Crabarra, and see what happens after that.

    And oh bye the way, A-Rod won the American League MVP Award, but two first place votes went to Magilio Ordonez (both from Detroit).

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by aashee View Post
    If this is the only trade the Angels make, it's horrible. I have to think it's the precursor to a much bigger trade. OC was on the up and Garland had an average season. I grade this trade an incomplete because right now, it doesn't make any sense.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    As an Angels' fan (second to my Royals of course), I agree with most of the comments about trading Cabrera. It doesn't make any sense. Hopefully, like someone else said, this is a precursor to another big trade.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

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    If they don't make up that incomplete, it should be changed to an F.
    Well. so many fans (myself included) wanted Bill Stoneman out because he seemingly couldn't pull the trigger on any trades.

    Be careful what you wish for, right?
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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    Exactly. I can't see any value in trading Cabrera away for Garland. Garland gives them a solid starting four of Lackey, Escobar, Weaver and Garland, and makes Santana or Saunders expendable in a trade.

    Fox Sports latest rumor has the Dodgers front runners in a trade for Cabrera. The prospects they mentioned were LaRoche, Kemp and Kershaw. Which sounds like maybe they've given up on asking for Martin, Loney and Billingsley. As a Dodger fan, I'd be fine trading those first three. If they have Cabrera, they don't need LaRoche, they're not getting Cabrera without trading pitching, so trade Kershaw who has no real experience instead of Billingsley, who does, and Kemp is the hot prospect they'll have to give up to get Cabrera.

    My feeling is if the Dodgers don't land Cabrera, then stick with LaRoche and go after Andruw Jones in free agency. They can't forget their biggest need is power, and of the big three center fielders, Jones has the best power and throws in good defense and a good arm with it. Even in a bad year last year, he hit 26 homers and drove in nearly 100 runs.

    I still think the Angels have a great shot at getting Cabrera if they include Kendrick, but they also may go after Tejada instead.

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    Re: Talking Baseball: The Hot Stove League Thread

    And Jimmy Rollins won the National League MVP today.

    Huzzah!

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