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    Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    So, I'm pretty sure my desktop has a virus. Yes, it's old and slow but...
    ~ the firewall keeps popping on and off
    ~ Frequently *something* is running in the background and slowing down/freezing my entire system. This goes on for an hour plus at a time.
    ~ and most importantly... it has turned itself off twice in the past week. Now... no blue screen of death, just a pop up after restart that says something about the system shutting down and to send an error report.
    The first time it crashed, the monitor froze up and somehow caused the crash??

    ANYWAY. Spybot SD, AdAware and AVG Free haven't found anything.

    Are there any more aggressive scanners out there that might find whatever's wrong?

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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    It sounds like you have a corrupted file in the system. The best way to check for viri would be to boot from an OS cd like Bart PE or one of the Live Linux CDs, then scan when the on drive system isn't running.

    If it is corrupted, then you're looking at a repair of the OS or a reinstall.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    Do you create restore points? If so - restore to a time before the problem - then clean & scan again.

    A repair or reinstall of the OS may be warranted as TTechGuy said...







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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    if you can download Malwarebytes Anti-Malware and run it while in safe mode, i've found it to be pretty effective at finding things that AVG doesn't

    also Spybot Search and Destroy is the last of my trifecta of computer security programs

    hope you get it figured out
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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    This is what I used...

    How to get rid of malware

    Malwarebytes Anti-Malware has worked for me when I have a similar problem.
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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    This same kind of thing used to happen with our old computer a lot. It was a victim to frequent attacks. Try running one of your spyware programs in safe mode. I swear by AVG. I know it doesn't work for everyone but it's what my moms tech guys at work use and recommend.


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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    I use Malwarebytes and I run Avast anti virus.

    The programs you are using were once really good, but not so much now.

    If you can, run them in safe mode and run them weekly. You can run many spyware programs but you can only have one antivirus program installed on your computer. Otherwise, they will conflict.

    These programs are free and Download.com is a great place to find them.


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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    I'm also going to recommend Avast and Malwarebytes.

    Though I think the first reply is probably onto something here. This sounds like corrupt operating system files more than a virus.

    A monitor can't cause the OS to crash, but a bad or hanging display driver can.

    It could also be that your system is heavily fragmented. I would recommend, very highly, MyDefrag over the Windows default defrag tool. It's faster and vastly more thorough. Heavily fragmented systems can get crosslinked files and other issues. Run the monthly one on your main drive. It could take literally 8 - 10 hours to run depending on size of drive and how bad the fragmentation is.

    This can fix some issues, it will also give you a noticeable speed boost if it is badly fragged.

    On top of Avast and Malwarebytes, having Spybot S&D's TeaTimer running is also a good idea. It watches for system file changes and alerts you that something is trying to modify system files.

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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    One last thing, whatever you used to fix your computer, post it here. It might help someone who has the same problem you do.


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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    Spyware Terminator just got a good review from Tekzilla. Might be worth a look.
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    Re: Stronger Spyware/Virus Software Needed!

    Thanks, I'll try malwarebytes and spyware terminator.

    I don't think I have any of those disks, and i really have no clue when it started. There should be restore points, but I use that computer so infrequently, that it never bothered me too much until I HAD to use it a lot.


    Thanks for the defrag info, I haven't defragged that computer in ages, so I think I'll try that program.

    I am pretty sure i have teatimer running, but I will double check!!
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