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    Tdl's potc vs dl

    Which version of Potc is better TDL OR DL?

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Hmmm...I'm sure those who have actually been on the attraction will tell you for sure, since I only know details. The one thing I know is that it only has one drop instead of DL's 2. That's because it does not have to go underneath any railroad tracks. I've heard that the actual ride experience is very similar to DL's though, but maybe the caverns are a bit shorter. I think when they created TDL's version, they decided not to recreate the "cliff notes" WDW version, so of all of the POTC"s around the world, TDL and DL's are most similar...from what I know. Even the facades are almost the same. TDL's is like the original DL's facade before the Fantasmic! upgrades to the area.

    Like I said, others who have actually ridden the attraction will answer with specifics.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Pirates in Tokyo is not the same as WDW's version. There never was any final "treasure" room (that's not the correct name for the final room as Marc Davis designed it--it might be the Stockade--but it's where the soldiers were in WDW before Jack Sparrow showed up).

    The drop in Tokyo is not as long as Disneyland.

    Tokyo has a Blue Bayou Restaurant like Disneyland.

    Tokyo does not have the Captain's Quarters in the opening cavern scene. Disneyland does.

    Things seem somewhat closer together in Tokyo's ride.

    The final scene with Johnny Depp is also unique in Tokyo. First, it's on the left side not the right. It's also right on top of you--you're very close. But there's also that little extra that Oriental Land Company always pays for, and that's a large parrot with whom Depp converses in dialogue unique to the Tokyo ride.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    I think I somehow prefer Disneyland a little bit- though Tokyo you can clearly see that everything is usually in perfect working order. The one thing that pisses me off about Disneyland now is that sometimes you get too wet on it now than in the past.

    I know due to rehab years ago they somehow removed the splash guards & one time I was absolutely soaked from head to foot while riding in the front on a cold October night.

    I do like seeing Davey Jones chest after the first drop which I think is only in Tokyo & Jack Sparrow is much more detailed. Disneyland has the chest with the cursed coins in its treasure room.

    I also really like the Paris version as well.

    It is a toss up since each park is pretty unique in its own way.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Quote Originally Posted by lakersboy92 View Post
    Which version of Potc is better TDL OR DL?
    Simple. I place DLP's and DL's as the very best versions there.. TDL's is great and a close third to those two.. Sadly, the MK finishes way last, Again.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Also, the TDL version doesn't have many of the recent small touches that have been added to DL's, such as the pop-up men operating the cannon in the fort on the right of the battle scene, and the shadow projection of the swordfight on the fort in front of you in the same scene. These days, I think DL's version is the best (of the three similar ones).

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    DL's version you get to ride the up-ramp at the end and you unload right where you started in the bayou. I always have liked the "unwind" time this gives you to reflect on what you just experienced.

    At TDL you unload right before the up-ramp which is OK, but not as fun as riding around back to the front like DL.

    And WDW...ahhh WDW... there the ride ends so abruptly that it feels like you are being rushed out, just like when you dine at a busy restaurant where they shove the bill in your face and push you out the door after what could have been a pleasant dining experience.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Quote Originally Posted by Roger55 View Post
    At TDL you unload right before the up-ramp which is OK, but not as fun as riding around back to the front like DL.
    Great point. I too always liked riding "up the waterfall" as a kid - after all, anything's possible at Disneyland. But as far as the story goes, there is a small benefit of TDL's version: as you load, you have to wonder - maybe we won't make it back!

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    TDL's the in essence the same as DL's without the extra body fat that makes DL's so memorable. Instead of transitions. It's, One Scene, The Next Scene, The Next scene, all right next to each other. For example, at the end of TDL's between the jailed pirates and the dog and the last pirate battle. It doesn't have that extended scene when you are underneith a burning bridge and it sounds/feels like it's gonna fall on you.


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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    how does the ending in TDL's work if you don't go back up the waterfall? I mean that kinda detail is sorta important to how DL's ending works with the pirates shooting at each other and whatnot

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    TDL's the in essence the same as DL's without the extra body fat that makes DL's so memorable. Instead of transitions. It's, One Scene, The Next Scene, The Next scene, all right next to each other. For example, at the end of TDL's between the jailed pirates and the dog and the last pirate battle. It doesn't have that extended scene when you are underneith a burning bridge and it sounds/feels like it's gonna fall on you.
    sounds alot like WDW's cave sequence. and WDW also skips that whole burning/caving in section. I'm almost curious if that section was upgraded in recent times and wasn't origionally as impressive? I mean the way it works now you totally miss it when it isn't there. Its a strong follow through to the burning city.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Quote Originally Posted by Jspider View Post
    how does the ending in TDL's work if you don't go back up the waterfall? I mean that kinda detail is sorta important to how DL's ending works with the pirates shooting at each other and whatnot
    I have never felt riding the waterfall upward to be relevant to the story. In fact, it feels odd to me... sorta like they are telling you.. "we dropped you twice so we are being nice by bringing you up to street level". Then again, I do not enjoy DL park as much as I would like to so I would not know better. But in TDL, the ending scene is that of Jack Sparrow enjoying the loot and singing Yo Ho yo ho.. to me that brings the storyline to a happy ending.. at least for jack.

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Quote Originally Posted by TDLFAN View Post
    I have never felt riding the waterfall upward to be relevant to the story. In fact, it feels odd to me... sorta like they are telling you.. "we dropped you twice so we are being nice by bringing you up to street level". Then again, I do not enjoy DL park as much as I would like to so I would not know better. But in TDL, the ending scene is that of Jack Sparrow enjoying the loot and singing Yo Ho yo ho.. to me that brings the storyline to a happy ending.. at least for jack.
    I guess that's what all the rides end with technically

    what I mean is that at least the original ending in DL was of the Pirates fighting and then you escape up the waterfall. Walt pretty much says as much when they show that old interview and stuff on the PoTC DVD (from the first movie).

    I've noticed that not only is WDW without the extension of the burning city but it also goes without this final confrontation of sorts. I was curious as to weather TDL's version had the pirates fighting in the armory scene or if it ended more like WDW's version? (which I feel ends rather suddenly)

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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    Quote Originally Posted by Jspider View Post
    how does the ending in TDL's work if you don't go back up the waterfall? I mean that kinda detail is sorta important to how DL's ending works with the pirates shooting at each other and whatnot
    Quote Originally Posted by TDLFAN View Post
    I have never felt riding the waterfall upward to be relevant to the story.
    I read that the symbolism was supposed to be that going down the waterfall takes us back in time, while going up the waterfall brings us back to a more contemporary New Orleans.

    When Davis designed Western River Expedition for the Magic Kingdom, there was similar symbolism...but guests would have gone up a waterfall to go back in time, then the final climactic drop would have brought them back.

    I felt that the original version of Pirates at the MK suffered from this lack of symbolism...so TDL's version probably did as well. The insertion of Jack Sparrow has however distracted from this symbolism somewhat...which at least in the case of the MK, has been beneficial IMO.
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    Re: Tdl's potc vs dl

    The original and still best Pirates of the Caribbean at Disneyland uses a very cinematic plot structure. Out of all of Disney attractions, this is the most like a movie.

    You start out in the present day for a leisurely cruise through the Blue Bayou Lagoon. We round a bend and the atmosphere changes the passageway grows narrows, the lights dim and suddenly we plunge down into a series of caverns. Its the typical it was a normal day until SOMETHING GOES WRONG opening that used in about 90% of the movies ever made.

    We venture deeper into the caverns. We see the skeletons of two pirates who have killed each other in a duela sign of bad things head. We move further into the caverns. This must have been a whole pirate lair, a place the pirates built out of the wreckage of their ship. Something really bad has happened here.

    We round another corner just like we dissolve between scenes in a movie and now we see what the kept the pirates herewe see a massive treasure. Its a mound of gold and jewels thats still guarded by a pirate long after hes turned to dust.

    Suddenly, the walls close in. Were in darkness. We hear voices. The treasure is cursed and we know we it is! But as the ominous voice tells us, dead men tell no tales. The voices of the dead pirates tell us that we may not survive to pass this way again.

    We exit the darkness right in the middle of pirate battle. Weve gone back to when the pirates first acquired the accursed treasure. Its a big flashback scene only now were in it. And we will probably suffer the same fate as the pirates we saw back in the caverns. We follow the pirates as they first attack the town, then they storm it and capture the mayor to learn the location of the treasure. They loot the town auctioning off the women, chasing the women er chase after food because Disney is a wimpy PC puppet, and finally set the town ablaze.

    Deep underneath the town, everything is about to collapse on us. We see the last of the pirates drunkenly shooting at each otherand at barrels of explosives. Just before everything is destroyed, we escape up a waterfall and back to our time. We beat the curse of the treasure. Yes, the ending is a little weak (kind of like the but it was all a dream! movie ending), but thats what the ride went with.

    One great addition that Disneyland had for years were a few extra characters (AA figures left over then when Disney gutted World of Motion for the lame Freeway the Ride!). At the bottom of the waterfall you saw two pirates trying to haul up a giant treasure chest. Then half way up the hill you saw the treasure chest again and the skeletons of the two pirates who never finished their task. Sadly, this great coda to the show was removed to insert the Johnny Dipstick commercial. One day when better people run Disney well have a proper ending for Pirates once again.

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