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    September/Halloween Crowds

    With our oldest finally starting Kindergarten in the fall, we now have to schedule our trips when it will be the least disruptive to her school schedule. Having said that, I really REALLY want to head back to TDR during the Halloween event and she gets a couple of days off from school one of those last weeks in September. Just wondering when do the Halloween crowds get really bad? And how is mid-late September going to be weather wise? Hey, I'm just excited about the possibility of going back early. Thought we wouldn't have the opportunity until early next year!

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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    Mid September is still hot and humid. Crowds are not bad except on the weekends.

    My advice is to take your daughter our of school during the first few years while you still can. Once she gets into 3rd grade, that becomes less of an option.

    It's much better weather in Tokyo during the second week of October and the Parks aren't too crowded yet because of Halloween (again, on the weekdays).

    Booking now, you'll probably get a good rate at the Hilton Tokyo Bay, particularly if you pay when you book--always the lowest rate--and right now the exchange rate is almost 97 yen to the dollar, which is excellent.
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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    I disagree with Mr. Fukai above. I will never take my children out of school to go visit a Disney park. I'm a responsible parent and my children's education comes first. Disney can wait for us, and when we are ready, we will take our children to a themed park but only during school vacation. As a concerned parent, I would never undermine my children's education.

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    Your statement that "I would never take my children out of school to go visit a Disney park" and "I'm a responsible parent" implies that I am irresponsible for thinking such a thing. I think you are being quite judgemental and if you think for a moment that I take education lightly, you are mistaken. My husband and I are both college graduates with dual degrees, he has his Masters, we regularly contribute to our daughters' education funds that were created from the time they were born, and while they are only 3 and 5 years old, we have already discussed their education and the kind of schools they will attend even up to and through college. I do not believe for a moment that my daughter missing a day or two of kindergarten will have any detrimental effect on my daughter's education. If you believe this for your children, you are entitled to such an opinion.

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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    Quote Originally Posted by LizCatMom View Post
    Your statement that "I would never take my children out of school to go visit a Disney park" and "I'm a responsible parent" implies that I am irresponsible for thinking such a thing. I think you are being quite judgemental and if you think for a moment that I take education lightly, you are mistaken. My husband and I are both college graduates with dual degrees, he has his Masters, we regularly contribute to our daughters' education funds that were created from the time they were born, and while they are only 3 and 5 years old, we have already discussed their education and the kind of schools they will attend even up to and through college. I do not believe for a moment that my daughter missing a day or two of kindergarten will have any detrimental effect on my daughter's education. If you believe this for your children, you are entitled to such an opinion.
    Yes, it was my opinion and I am entitled to it as much as you are to your position on the subject. However, it was not an attack on you and your parental skills. If you want to take my opinion on a personal level then two thing come to my mind, letting you know that I AM A FULL TIME TEACHER. 1) considering the amount of education you claim you have, then you should know better and 2) I don't care to tell you what to do with your children, but neither me or my husband would short-change our children's education for a trip to Disneyland, and that as you acknowledged, is what I believe is best for my children.

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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    Quote Originally Posted by Aotphks View Post
    Yes, it was my opinion and I am entitled to it as much as you are to your position on the subject. However, it was not an attack on you and your parental skills. If you want to take my opinion on a personal level then two thing come to my mind, letting you know that I AM A FULL TIME TEACHER. 1) considering the amount of education you claim you have, then you should know better and 2) I don't care to tell you what to do with your children, but neither me or my husband would short-change our children's education for a trip to Disneyland, and that as you acknowledged, is what I believe is best for my children.
    While we are being honest, as I read your first response, I half suspected that you were in education. Bravo. Thank you for taking up a profession that often sometimes does not get the respect it deserves. However, I believe parents can use their own judgement to decide when the occasion permits that their child or children can miss a day or two of school -- and when I say day or two, I mean exactly that, I do not mean a full week or more -- to spend with their family on a family vacation wherever that may be. I attended a small school, one that I attended from kindergarten until 12th grade, and at the end of it, when I was graduating with an AP Honors diploma and prepared to attend college, aside from my parents being proud, there was no formal recognition given for the accomplishment. Oh, but let's make a big deal for the student who had a perfect attendance and would graduate with a C average. Why, yes, by all means, perfect attendance is what we must strive for! But, since you are a FULL-TIME TEACHER as you claim, I know it is probably so indoctrinated into your brain that "students must not miss school!" I wouldn't expect you to think any differently. I would be quite disappointed if you did. Oh, and if we are going to take this to a personal level, learn a little bit more about me. I am a military spouse that has been away from my family for the past 10 years. I've had both of my children overseas and when we brought them home from the hospital, there was no help, there were no family members waiting to make us a meal or hold the baby while I could take a shower. When we celebrate holidays that people typically get to be around loved ones, the closest we can get is by saying "Merry Christmas" and "Happy Birthday" over Skype. We've learned to do things a little differently, we've had to adapt, and figure out what is best for our family. So you can sit back, shake your finger, and say "you should know better" when in reality, you should be the one to put yourself in my shoes and realize that I DO KNOW BETTER. I know that spending a few days with my husband and my girls, laughing and being carefree, letting them know that they are loved and enjoying time with their family is more important than anything they could read in a book. Sorry. My opinion.

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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    What a load of hooey. Your children in pre-K, K, 1, and 2nd grades don't miss anything they can't pick up easily if you take them out of school for a week.

    And that's my opinion. Know what it's based on? My daughter just graduated 5th grade and has been a perfect straight A student. We took her out of school once or twice a year through second grade to go to Walt Disney World while everyone else in the world wasn't down there. No problems at all.

    So don't judge my parenting skills or judgment. If you don't want to take your kid out of school--don't do it. But don't tell any of us what to do.
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    First up I just want to say that I deeply regret that my opinion has caused both of you such concerns and for that reason, I offer my heart felt apologies to you both. Re-reading my original post I can understand why it upset you and how it could imply an opinion on your parental skills, but believe me when I say that I was talking about what I would do and not meant to tell you what you should do in regards to your children and their schooling. I regret that it came off that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by LizCatMom View Post
    While we are being honest, as I read your first response, I half suspected that you were in education. Bravo. Thank you for taking up a profession that often sometimes does not get the respect it deserves. However, I believe parents can use their own judgement to decide when the occasion permits that their child or children can miss a day or two of school
    Well, I appreciate your comment about my profession, which I have been doing for over 10 years. We all make our choices and the same way I chose to be a teacher, you chose to be a military wife accepting all the sacrifices it comes with it. If I feel passionate about schooling over vacationing is because as an educator, many people don't understand the amount of work it takes to prepare for class, having to meet agendas and curriculum, compose tests, grade them, come up with clever ways to present topics that otherwise would not hold the attention of kids in class..plus having to attend teacher meetings after class etc etc etc. It's a lot of work!!! So please don't take it personally or be upset when I'm so passionate about kids not missing school. Several times I have had parents take kids out of class for whatever reason, then miss exam days, which then I have to help make up on my time off or after school hours. I guess that is my problem with it, but you will never ever see me throw myself between my classroom door and a parent to prevent a child from missing class. I very much recognize that is your choice as a parent and it's none of my business. Just be glad that some of us are willing to help your child catch up after school hours if needs be, which is a quite tough considering I have 2 children in elementary to look after and a husband who is on the road on business 2-4 days every week.
    Quote Originally Posted by LizCatMom
    Sorry. My opinion.
    No need to apologize for your opinion. It's respected. But I want to wish you good luck on planning your vacation. We visited Tokyo Disney shortly after the park re-opened when the Tsunami occurred. I have been dying to go back and spend a vacation there once again but time and money here are a factor preventing us from visiting Japan again.

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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    Are you kidding me?

    I have to weigh in on this thread and, in particular, the fact that it pertains to TDR. How could any teacher discourage taking a child on a trip abroad in which they get to ride on a plane, visit other cultures, interact with other languages, cuisine, customs, etc., (even if there is a Disney component tied to it) all because the child will miss a few days of school?

    The child will benefit in the long run by having gone on that trip then from participating in a few days of Kindergarten. We are a global society and everything is moving at the speed of light. The rigid customs and approaches from the 1950's no longer apply anymore. If our kids are going to compete in the future, this is exactly the type of thing that should be encouraged. A trip to another country puts more contextual learning into a child's mind then a day in a hum drum classroom ever could.

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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    I am going to agree with disneytom on this one. (And I am retired after 37 years as a classroom teacher and teacher-specialist.) The benefits of a trip such as this far outweigh the drawbacks, especially for a 5-year-old. And with older children, the school can often set up an independent study plan that takes advantage of the travel experience.

    The vast majority of students in the district I worked for rarely traveled more than a few miles from home, unless the school was able to take them on an occasional field trip. And the best we could do was to take them to a local museum, zoo, or state park.

    While on the trip (and after, as well) encourage your Kindergartner to record her experience through whatever means she can--maybe drawings that she (or you) can caption with one or two words, and then she can use them to relate her experience to friends, family, or classmates. Model the behavior yourself by keeping a journal of the trip. It should be a task you both look forward to doing.
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    Re: September/Halloween Crowds

    Mid September is still hot and humid. Crowds are not bad except on the weekends.
    Sorry I have to disagree with you here. I have seen wait times at Tokyo Disneyland in the 2-3 hour category during mid September on a Weekday. Crowd levels at Tokyo DisneySea are usually much more manageable. The last time I visited during September for Halloween the crowds were not to bad. But I put that down to Tokyo DisneySea helping to spread out the people between both parks with its own Halloween offering. If you are thinking about going this year then I'd expect Tokyo Disneyland to be packed. It's an Anniversary year anyway and I think the park is getting a new Halloween Parade this year.

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