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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    I thought we went to Universal to see how and where movies were made. Not to watch another movie. You can't even pass it off as a fake set like they do for The Mummy. All the set pieces of the tour fits in the how category.

    Earthquake - To show how to create a set, completely thrash it and put it back together again within a matter of minutes.
    Mexico Flood - How film rain works.
    Jaws - How animatronics worked for the Jaws series, along with how fire, water, blood, and on water sets work.
    The Falling Bridge - Pretty much the same as Earthquake.
    The original King Kong - Once again Animatronics for the 80s version of King Kong and how they fit on practical sound stages.
    The Red Sea - How a parting Red Sea effect could work (although I've never seen this in a movie nor the Ten Commandments).
    Fast and Furious - How action works with bullet holes, fire and cars (even though I've never seen a car on those "dancing systems", I'm sure it has been or will be used some day)

    And then we get down to this new King Kong and it goes in the "ride" category. The building isn't even made up to look like a jungle so we're tricked into believing we somehow stumbled into the jungle of the backlot and that's where King Kong lives (like stumbling into the cursed Mummy soundstage). And then we put on 3D glasses, which aren't apart of any other part of the Studio Tour and watch a movie where the track moves. We can argue it's to show how 3D works in films but whenever are there movies where you're in a 360 environment with the entire theater moving around? I'm hoping after leaving the show building, there will be an explanation of how 3D elements work into film or else I'm going to be disappointed more than I am now. They should've moved this idea onto the lower lot somewhere near Revenge of the Mummy so we can just have a King Kong ride apart of the theme park instead of a ride apart of the Studio Tour, which is supposed to be educational and fun, not JUST fun (although I don't think that's the worst thing in the world, I just want the Studio Tour to stay consistent).

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    May I add that with Spiderman and Transformers your in a small moving vehicle. With Kong your on the tram. All your doing is going into the building and watching the movie. It will also suck if your stuck in the middle seat. Now that I think about it there will be no seat where you can really see the whole show. Unless it's the same show on both sides of the tram which would be pretty stupid if you ask me. For me that would wreck the immersion factor. It will also be pretty annoying to have to hold 3D glasses the entire tour.

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Quote Originally Posted by socalchainsaw View Post
    It will also suck if your stuck in the middle seat.
    Actually it's been said that the middle seat is the best.


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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Quote Originally Posted by dth316 View Post
    I thought we went to Universal to see how and where movies were made. Not to watch another movie. You can't even pass it off as a fake set like they do for The Mummy. All the set pieces of the tour fits in the how category.

    Earthquake - To show how to create a set, completely thrash it and put it back together again within a matter of minutes.
    Mexico Flood - How film rain works.
    Jaws - How animatronics worked for the Jaws series, along with how fire, water, blood, and on water sets work.
    The Falling Bridge - Pretty much the same as Earthquake.
    The original King Kong - Once again Animatronics for the 80s version of King Kong and how they fit on practical sound stages.
    The Red Sea - How a parting Red Sea effect could work (although I've never seen this in a movie nor the Ten Commandments).
    Fast and Furious - How action works with bullet holes, fire and cars (even though I've never seen a car on those "dancing systems", I'm sure it has been or will be used some day)

    And then we get down to this new King Kong and it goes in the "ride" category. The building isn't even made up to look like a jungle so we're tricked into believing we somehow stumbled into the jungle of the backlot and that's where King Kong lives (like stumbling into the cursed Mummy soundstage). And then we put on 3D glasses, which aren't apart of any other part of the Studio Tour and watch a movie where the track moves. We can argue it's to show how 3D works in films but whenever are there movies where you're in a 360 environment with the entire theater moving around? I'm hoping after leaving the show building, there will be an explanation of how 3D elements work into film or else I'm going to be disappointed more than I am now. They should've moved this idea onto the lower lot somewhere near Revenge of the Mummy so we can just have a King Kong ride apart of the theme park instead of a ride apart of the Studio Tour, which is supposed to be educational and fun, not JUST fun (although I don't think that's the worst thing in the world, I just want the Studio Tour to stay consistent).
    Well since 3D animation (CG) is used WAY more than Animatronic's now of days, it makes sense why they would go 3D and show you how 3D Film works.
    (also for those of you who dont know) Peter Jackson shot all the new shots for this attraction so im sure he'll be on the ride to show you how h did it.

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Quote Originally Posted by JerrodDRagon View Post
    Peter Jackson shot all the new shots for this attraction so im sure he'll be on the ride to show you how h did it.
    I was just watching the behind the scenes for the Two Towers Extended edition, thinking, I wonder if he's going to do a 3 hour long behind the scenes feature of the new Kong Attraction. (which I would buy in a heartbeat anyway)


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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    That's what I'm HOPING, is that there will be a WETA workshop featurette video of some sort after.
    And I wouldn't say CGI is used way more than AAs. And when they ARE used, it's obvious. I would say practical effects look and work the best. I think things need to go back to the practical look of things and use CGI a lot more sparingly. I don't mind the full CGI features but when I'm watching the new Rambo and someone gets shot in the chest and I see a moving bullet hole that doesn't match with their falling body, it's very distracting (even though that movie is awesome, it'd be a whole point better if they went practical for their wound effects).

    And now I totally agree with socal on this. And if it is true that the middle is the best seat, then um, there are 4 other people in the row who got jipped. So I'm lead to believe this show was meant to only cater 1 person in each row for an optimum experience? I don't buy that. The simple fact is the 3D won't work because their is a low ceiling on the tram with many bars in the way. Obstructed views always mess up 3D. The biggest factor to ruin the experience is going to be the ceiling because with such high up screens, you won't be able to see the tops of them. The best way it can work is sitting smack dab in the middle of an IMAX auditorium. I honestly believe this attraction failed from the word go when they forgot about such simple things like this. However, I remain optimistic that Universal has found a way around all these corners (although very unlikely). I highly look forward to it but I don't predict I'll be impressed.

    And yeah, holding glasses for an hour on the tour for a 3 - 5 minute section is totally lame. The only way I can conceive this working out is if there are buckets on the inside doors of the tram that you can pass down the row. (TAKE MY IDEA UNIVERSAL)

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    Actually it's been said that the middle seat is the best.
    I don't understand that. There's at least 3 people's heads in the way plus the top of the tram will probably cut off part of the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalchainsaw View Post
    I don't understand that. There's at least 3 people's heads in the way plus the top of the tram will probably cut off part of the screen.
    The screens are concave so the tram chopping off the top of the screen will not be an issue.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs2-i_FRfA0]YouTube - Universal Studios Hollywood King Kong 360 Production Preview[/ame]

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Quote Originally Posted by socalchainsaw View Post
    I don't understand that. There's at least 3 people's heads in the way plus the top of the tram will probably cut off part of the screen.
    That's exactly why it's said to be the best. Because if you sit on the edges you will see the edges of the screen. Plus it wont matter if people are next to you or beside you, that's never been a problem. They wouldn't build these attractions on the tram if they weren't meant to be seen from every angle.


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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Quote Originally Posted by socalchainsaw View Post
    ^ I think it's 4th of July weekend.
    I can confirm it's 4th of July weekend.

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    You'll have to ride through about 6 or 7 times to see everything too. It's gonna be fun to see how many people get motion sickness/headaches from the effect of seeing a 3D projection from too far off angle- despite what all the pr flacks say about that not being an issue, sit in the back of car 4 and try and see the action at the front of the tunnel (on either side).

    As for the glasses, they're already setting up the distribution point for them in the Tour queue area.

    Planned opening is July 1.
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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    How has people to the side of you and in front of you never been a problem? I have a problem with Terminator when someone sits in front of me that's too tall. Let alone if I had to look to the left to see something.
    Watching that video pretty much solidified my fears :-/

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Lets hope APers get to go on it a Day or Two Early.

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    An AP preview would be the ideal situation. Who the hell would want to go a theme park on a weekend as busy as 4th of July weekend? I'd rather wait until Septemeber when things come to a halt.

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    Re: King Kong to rejoin Universal tours in 3-D

    Well, Fast & The Furious - AKA Dancing Cars on Sticks started running trams of people through with guests a few days before it's scheduled opening, so you might see something like that for Kong.
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