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    Re: Inside the "Forbidden Journey"

    Universal seems to get more for their money than Disney does. They also seem to build and open new attractions much faster.......it takes Disney FOREVER from concept to reality!

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    Re: Inside the "Forbidden Journey"

    Harry Potter > Carsland


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    Ok, I wouldn't go that far.. Radiator Springs will feature two new rides in addition to RSR, whereas IOA is using re-themed versions of rides that already existed. It will also feature a much-higher price tag than HP.. and have you seen the amazing rockwork?!

    Rock work doesn't mean themeing. It means rock work, it's suppose to highlight the themed areas and not just be the theme. I doubt Carsland will have the same level of detail that HP does.

    Your forgetting. Disney is using technology that has been around for over 10 years, tweaking it a little to work better for RSR. Universal is using ride technology that has never been seen before on a grand scale that so far has yet to be matched. Why can't Disney do that anymore? This is going to be IOA's SECOND huge E-ticket Indiana Jones Adventure-Scaled ride. Where Disney, still has the old Indiana Jones Adventure as the pinnacle of Imagineering... from 15 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainejeff View Post
    Universal seems to get more for their money than Disney does. They also seem to build and open new attractions much faster.......it takes Disney FOREVER from concept to reality!
    I've been thinking this for months. Watching IOA's Harry Potter progress compared to Paradise Pier at DCA has been downright depressing. Rain delays notwithstanding, the progress on DCA has been at a snail's pace by nearly any standard. At this rate, the Crazy Horse statue in South Dakota might see a grand opening before the DCA remodel is finished.
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    I must say regardless of budget or ride type there's just something much more captivating about going to Harry potter's world than visiting pixars worst movie.
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    Here is a detailed walk-through of the queue. It sounds absolutely amazing.

    The attraction at the Wizarding World of Harry Potter that Universal Orlando is most excited about is Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey, a ride they revealed to press and "Harry
    Potter" fan site webmasters on Wednesday. MTV got a chance to be one of the first inside Hogwarts castle, which is much more than just a pretty and accurate exterior.

    Wizarding World creative director Thierry Coup said a couple months back that just waiting in line for the ride portion of Forbidden Journey was worth the time, and Wednesday's visit explained why. Many of the iconic rooms and areas of Hogwarts castle that have been described in the "Harry Potter" books and seen in the movies have been re-created inside Universal's version of Hogwarts castle.

    "It's the most immersive queue ever created," said Alan Gilmore, production consultant for the park and art director for some of the films. "Every moment here is a wonderful moment, really. You just take it all in."

    The experience starts at the entrance to Hogwarts, where statues of winged boars like the ones from the film version of "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince" can be seen. A sign below says, "Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry," but Gilmore revealed that when the park is opened on June 18, there will be a "magical" effect that will make it seem as though the words "Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey" will appear etched by wand over the sign.

    Guests will enter through the dungeon level of the park, where they will walk through in either the express, singles or regular line. The express line will miss out on the majority of the tour of Hogwarts. The dungeon area is designed with no "walls," to look as though it has been carved out of the mountain. Attendees will walk by the One-Eyed Witch statue and the Mirror of Erised, which Harry Potter sees in "The Sorcerer's Stone."

    After passing through the dungeon area, visitors will go outside to the Hogwarts greenhouse, where Professor Sprout's class studies Herbology. Coup and Gilmore said there is still horticulture to be planted before the park opens — but there were "sleeping" mandrake roots in a cage near the entrance back into the castle and there will be a giant vine, like in the films, creeping around the greenhouse.

    The entrance back into the castle is what Coup called the "Oxford Corridor," and was basically a re-creation of the many corridors Harry and his friends walk through in the films. There is a statue of the architect of Hogwarts, who is standing with a lion, badger, snake and eagle to represent the four houses. At the end of the corridor is the griffin statue which, in the books and film, provides a magical staircase to Dumbledore's office.

    Past the statue are moving paintings, which Universal used special technology to re-create. The first is of Professor Swoopstikes, who is talking about insects to the guests. The next one is of people watching Quidditch, and if visitors watch long enough, Swoopstikes will enter the Quidditch painting. The next room is the portrait room with about 100 paintings, both moving and not, of the founders and major people involved in Hogwarts. The paintings talk to themselves and to the guests, mostly questioning why Muggles are in Hogwarts, with a script designed to avoid repetition.

    Finally guests will arrive in Dumbledore's Office, which is their intended destination in the castle according to Forbidden Journey's story line. Express guests will have skipped all the previous rooms and end up in the office after walking from the dungeons through a different portrait gallery.

    Gilmore said this room was a more faithful reproduction of the office than in the films — it was something he and the films' production designer, Stuart Craig, always wanted to do. It looks identical to the room in the films, with all the same paraphernalia and knickknacks lying around.

    A 3-D projection of Michael Gambon as Albus Dumbledore greets the guests for their planned lecture from the ghost Professor Bins on the history of Hogwarts — after all, "today" (or every day in the Wizarding World) is the "first" day Muggles are being allowed to tour Hogwarts.

    Guests then walk into the Defense Against Dark Arts classroom, with a skeleton of a dragon hanging from the ceiling while a chalkboard with a Dementors and "Expecto Patronum" lesson sits at the front of the room. Harry, Ron and Hermione appear in the back of the classroom from under an invisibility cloak and convince visitors to skip the lecture and go see a Quidditch tournament instead.

    Visitors are supposed to meet Hermione in the Room of Requirement, but have to walk past the animated portrait of the Fat Lady and through Gryffindor common room in order to do so. There are three moving paintings in this room: one of a Quidditch player, one of an etiquette teacher and one of a professor who explains in magical terms how the ride portion of Forbidden Journey will work. Here guests who don't wish to ride the attraction but wanted to see the castle can leave if they wish.

    The tour ends in the Gryffindor common room, though the Sorting Hat and Room of Requirement are still ahead. It is in the Room of Requirement that guests can get on the ride, described as a "magically enchanted bench," and see various beloved scenes from the series. Universal would not share the details of how this portion would work, instead saying they would prefer to maintain a "magical" element to the ride.

    The entire experience of the queue and ride are expected to be around an hour, Coup said, though to him "time stands still when you're in there." He said he always loved the stories and would read the books and show the movies to his son when he was growing up.
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    I guess Dumbledore 3-D projection is just a screen you can't see. The dark background there is perfect for a mylar projection surface so it blends away.

    You see this stuff often when people claim 'hologram' projections, etc. It's very convincing when the lighting is correct.

    I would assume the students would be a similar effect in the next room.

    Here's an article illustrating how similar 'transparent' screens are used for other effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k_peek_2000 View Post
    Universal is using ride technology that has never been seen before on a grand scale that so far has yet to be matched. Why can't Disney do that anymore? This is going to be IOA's SECOND huge E-ticket Indiana Jones Adventure-Scaled ride. Where Disney, still has the old Indiana Jones Adventure as the pinnacle of Imagineering... from 15 years ago.
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    Re: Inside the "Forbidden Journey"

    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway Guru View Post
    Short answer: They have a built-in base of 1,000,000 prepaid admissions. Why try when you don't have to?
    Because that's called "Being Lazy", something Disney was founded on not doing. The reason DCA failed was because it was designed lazily.


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    Re: Inside the "Forbidden Journey"

    Okay, now that's a line I'm willing to wait in, especially for the conversations among the moving paintings.
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    I don't know about you guys but WWOHP interests me waaayyyy more than Cars land. Cars is one movie, going to be 2. Harry Potter is 7 books plus 8 movies. And the story of Harry Potter is excellent for people of all ages. To me Cars land is targeted at 8 year old boys. I definitely think that Disney should be worried about this, because it definitely looks way cooler than anything that I have seen coming from their parks in a looong time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediPrincess View Post
    I don't know about you guys but WWOHP interests me waaayyyy more than Cars land. Cars is one movie, going to be 2. Harry Potter is 7 books plus 8 movies. And the story of Harry Potter is excellent for people of all ages. To me Cars land is targeted at 8 year old boys. I definitely think that Disney should be worried about this, because it definitely looks way cooler than anything that I have seen coming from their parks in a looong time.
    ...in comparison to the ho-hum Fantasyland expansion planned for the Magic Kingdom that is gonna mostly be catered to girls...oh who the heck am I kidding...it's ALL gonna be catered to girls! We're talking Princess marketing overkill here, and why does Cinderella need her own themed area when she already has the castle? I would've loved to see a Princess Jasmine themed section in its place.

    I'm very concerned that Disney might slack off on the theming once the expansion project begins breaking ground (unless it has already). The only way Disney will have a success with this is if they stay true to their original theming plans and not screw this up. But like I said alot of the stuff they have planned still feels like complete overkill to me and the only real thing in that planned expansion that I would have any interest in experiencing is the Little Mermaid dark ride. That and the Dumbo redo btw are the only two rides I'm aware of that are part of this new expansion,

    btw: Why are we doing a comparison of WWOHP with Carsland when the two lands are gonna be on opposite sides of the country from each other?

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    I guess Dumbledore 3-D projection is just a screen you can't see. The dark background there is perfect for a mylar projection surface so it blends away.
    My guess is that it'll be the same technology they use with Christopher Walkin in the Disaster attraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcnole View Post
    My guess is that it'll be the same technology they use with Christopher Walkin in the Disaster attraction.
    Yep, thats the exact plan.


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    Re: Inside the "Forbidden Journey"

    Quote Originally Posted by toonaspie View Post
    ...in comparison to the ho-hum Fantasyland expansion planned for the Magic Kingdom that is gonna mostly be catered to girls...oh who the heck am I kidding...it's ALL gonna be catered to girls! We're talking Princess marketing overkill here, and why does Cinderella need her own themed area when she already has the castle? I would've loved to see a Princess Jasmine themed section in its place.
    I totally agree with you here. I think that Harry Potter will succeed because it appeals to a vast majority of people, where as cars land and Fantasyland expansion are both targeted to a small demographic, one for boys the other girls.

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