Epcot's Wish List

[jackskeleton1015]

The CM's that work for Disney World made up a list wish for things they would like Epcot to add or bring back

Here it is EPCOT Central: Top 10 Changes (A Wish List)

Top 10 Changes (A Wish List)






It was an illuminating experience to recently scour the 'net and see what's been written about EPCOT Central. There are, it seems, still many people (Disney employees is always a good guess) who insist that EPCOT Central and EPCOT fans would like to see Disney, its theme parks and EPCOT in particular stay rooted in the past!

Untrue. The root of that belief is likely in the idea that what we'd love to see is EPCOT return to the concepts and theme that made it such an unprecedented and amazing park in the first place.


So, here's an off-the-cuff list of the Top 10 Changes EPCOT Central would love to see at EPCOT -- presented with a hope that you'll share your own additions, and that EPCOT will continue moving forward into a brighter, more exciting future.


10) Train the Cast
While many cast members are absolutely wonderful at their jobs, it's far too easy and common to encounter cast members who are either a bit too socially oriented (ignoring guests for the sake of chatting with each other) or really have no idea what they're doing there, which is unfortunately particularly true of World Showcase cast members. This is not meant to criticize those cast members who are fantastic at their jobs! Rather, it's particularly important at EPCOT because every cast member has a chance to communicate, both through action and through conversations with guests, the basic theme and concept of EPCOT.


9) Bring Back the Buses
Watching an old (yes, "back to the past" -- oh, how awful!) video feature on EPCOT Center, it was terrific fun to see the old double-decker buses that Disney used to offer as transportation -- one of the reasons the walkways around World Showcase are so fantastically wide. Considering how many guets use ECVs and other assistance given the sheer scale of World Showcase, and seeing the ambience and charm they brought to the area, it would be great to see Disney bring these back both as "color" and as transportation alternatives (just like on Main Street -- or, wait, do they offer the "omnibuses" anymore?!).


8) Spruce Up Space
For anyone who rides the attraction, the very, very long exit area of Mission: Space has to be an enormous letdown. Everything about the entry queue is detailed, dramatic and mood-setting. And then, after the ride, there's a long hallway with white walls and what seem more like hospital stripes than theming. Would it be so difficult to add some dramatic lighting and perhaps a large-scale mural to the exit area ... anything to prevent this area from being so unrelievedly boring? It's as if Disney's saying, "That's it, show's over, move along." (And speaking of the exit to Mission: Space, has there ever been a full house at the Advanced Training Lab? The poor cast members there are sometimes reduced to carnival barkers begging people to take part.)


7) Reinvigorate the Restaurants
EPCOT Center used to have, hands down, some of the best dining experiences in Walt Disney World -- perhaps in Central Florida. But recent changes have resuilted in the Coral Reef Room serving only a few fish entrees; the original Alfredo's being converted into a rather standard-fare Italian restaurant; and a general lowering of standards that's likely good for Disney's bottom line but results in one less reason for guests to come back over and over. A great meal with food you don't usually get at home used to be a terrific motivator to visit EPCOT after a full day at another park, but EPCOT's dining choices are less and less appealing lately.


6) Expand World Showcase
A recent EPCOT Central reader argued that World Showcase should stay as it is, with the focus being on upgrading the pavilions already there. That would be fantastic, and would certainly result in more reason to visit EPCOT -- so, in a way, it's easy to endorse that point of view. And since there were some really stellar concepts back in the '80s that never came to pass (the original drawing of the Rhine River Cruise is still perpetually haunting and compelling!), EPCOT would do well to acknowledge that we know more about the world and have more opportunity to travel since 1982. And so do guests from other countries. So, perhaps it's time to aggressively court the tourism boards and major corporations of Brazil (a huge driver of Disney business), Spain, Russia or India? If Disney's worried about not recouping a major investment in World Showcase, consider this: An addition offers the opportunity to market a new attraction no one can emulate -- Universal, Sea World and Busch Gardens have no thematic ability to offer a pavilion that opens a new window on the world for many guests. This is unique to Disney, and it's eminently marketable.


5) Restore the Fountain of Nations
The Fountain of Nations is one of EPCOT's small wonders, offering a show many guests don't even realize is part of the entertainment ... until they watch it with great wonder. In 1994, a show called "Splashtacular" was performed on the south side of the fountain, and a stage was built to accommodate it. Now, that stage is in a sad state of disrepair, while the fountain itself (during three recent visits) had misaligned nozzles and some sections that didn't work. The Fountain is an integral, wonderful part of EPCOT Center and Future World -- it would be great to see it restored.


4) Plan for Change
One of EPCOT Center's key design downfalls was that it required rather significant capital investments every few years to keep it up to date. But less than two years after it opened, a new Disney regime came in and -- giving them huge credit and praise -- turned attention to othe areas of Walt Disney World, investing in the once-brilliant Disney-MGM Studios, building some magnificently themed resorts, and improving the overall infrastructure. EPCOT Center briefly received some TLC, with the opening of the Morocco and Norway pavilions as well as the addition of the Wonders of Life pavilion. But after a while, Disney seemed to lose interest and didn't upgrade the major pavilions on a regular basis -- both giving guests fewer reasons to return, and letting them become woefully outdated. As Disney (hopefully) improves and invests in Future World pavilions, it must be careful to ensure that they keep up with rapidly changing technology and reflect changes in the world around us. The easy, unpleasant way to do this is create an attraction with little basis in reality, such as Mission: Space or The Seas With Nemo and Friends. They're both decent attractions, but have little place in Future World. (Mission: Space could have been part of a brilliant overhaul to Tomorrowland, and Nemo would have been a natural for Fantasyland). The harder way is more rewarding for everyone: A thoughtful upgrade like Spaceship Earth, which adds some fun, new elements (some of us really do like the on-screen fun on the descent!), and tries very hard, mostly successfully, to reflect what we know of the world. In two or three years, a couple of million dollars in one or two new scenes along with new narration will create a vibrant new version of the ride -- at a tiny fraction of the cost of a brand-new pavilion. Careful re-thinking of Future World attractions can go a long way toward keeping them fresh.


3) Create Unique Merchandise
Virtually every retail location at EPCOT, as well as much of Walt Disney World, seems to have decided to stock the same merchandise. In 1999, when Centorium became Mouse Gear, its products also became Mouse-oriented. Now, too many stores stock too many of the same items. Even World Showcase has become more Disney-oriented, with fewer and fewer "homegrown" options. Shopping at EPCOT should be unlike anyplace in the World. As an example, take a look at a store like Mombassa Traders at Animal Kingdom, which offers wonderful, eclectic items. I'm all for Mickey t-shirts and Disney memorabilia -- but does EPCOT have to be just like everywhere else?


2) Bring Back Akershus
This almost made the No. 1 spot -- it seems that vital. Here's a thought: Give us back the unusual, tasty, charming restaurant for all guests that used to exist at Akershus prior to the Great Princess Invasion and -- a serious proposal here -- turn the Odyssey restaurant into the Princess Odyssey. It's a huge, underused facility that has no real theme and doesn't seem to fit in to the rest of EPCOT. It's a big chunk of real estate that should be "monetized." Make that EPCOT's big Princess dining location, and restore the sense of national culture and authenticity to Restaurant Akershus. It's a win-win for everyone!


1) Do Something Absolutely Extraordinary
What does this mean? Not a clue. But someone at Imagineering does. Give us an EPCOT game-changer, something that is so exciting and different and unexpected that it brings a new infusion of life, a renewed sense of purpose and a restored meaning of theme to EPCOT. Wow us. Amaze us. Prove all of us naysayers wrong and show us that Disney is still the most exciting, imaginative, innovative, forward-thinking, creative, brilliant designers of theme-park entertainment anywhere. Remind the world what EPCOT means. Do something that really blows us away. There's enormous room to grow at EPCOT ... both literally and figuratively.


Show us what it means to be inspired by the world in which we live.


It's an amazing place. Remind us of that.

[aimster]

They forgot one integral thing:

Bring Imagination back to its former glory!

[cyberworm]

I agree with Aimster.... BRING BACK FIGMENT! erm... Imagination....

[Krankenstein]

I agree, we need to bring the old Imagination back!

The other major thing about Epcot is all the wasted space. Whether former restaurants and pavilions that are currently abandoned or buildings built for attractions that never were realized. The park is full of wasted space!

[Jerren]

Originally Posted by jackskeleton1015

8) Spruce Up Space
For anyone who rides the attraction, the very, very long exit area of Mission: Space has to be an enormous letdown. Everything about the entry queue is detailed, dramatic and mood-setting. And then, after the ride, there's a long hallway with white walls and what seem more like hospital stripes than theming. Would it be so difficult to add some dramatic lighting and perhaps a large-scale mural to the exit area ... anything to prevent this area from being so unrelievedly boring? It's as if Disney's saying, "That's it, show's over, move along." (And speaking of the exit to Mission: Space, has there ever been a full house at the Advanced Training Lab? The poor cast members there are sometimes reduced to carnival barkers begging people to take part.)

See now I always thought it was done that way intentionally, having worked at a few NASA facilities in my day that's what I remember most of the hallways looking like: a plain blah dirty white color....

Also it's easier to clean up the vomit and paint over the stains if it's all one color...

[MJMcB]

We need 2 countries at least. I would vote for Brazil and India myself, but Russia would make a lot of sense

Finally, put in one of those attractions that were supposed to be there from Day 1. My choice would be the boat ride for Germany, though the Italian gondola ride would be cool

Get StormRider in there instead of WoL

Change the Soarin' movie

[MJMcB]

oh and I would add the original concept to the end of Mission Space plus add a planetarium

[tasman]

Originally Posted by aimster

They forgot one integral thing:

Bring Imagination back to its former glory!

That's # 1 for me.

I don't care as much about adding new countries to World Showcase. There is so much more they could do with the ones they already have.

[TDLFAN]

For starters jackskelleton... that was a well written post with great info and historic perspectives. As someone who worked at EPCOT Center before it opened to the public and was there on opening morning.. I can relate to your pasionate plea. Heck, I wish I could rant with the finesse you stated your points about fixing what's wrong with EC now a days... so maybe people didn't get on my case as often.

I think my Wish list would include..
1) renaming the park back to the original EPCOT Center name.
2)Bring back the original Imagination ride with added state of the art effects. Add some new pavillions that are missing in World Showcase... as this area is way too european as it is. They need more diversity there, plus adding a few new rides to the existing pavillions would do wonders for WS as well.
3) Make sure Illuminations get revised and changed like every 4 yrs or so.
4) Re-open Horizons again where CommuniCore is, only updated in show contents.
5) Re-open Wonders of Life sans the corny Body Wars, and with updated exhibits about health current to todays issues and future possibilities.
6) Redo the entrance plaza. Pull the plug on the Legacy Mausoleum and turn EPCOT's main entrance into a more welcoming gardens and fountains setting.

All in all, I want to see a return to basics... like re-opening Odyssey Restaurant offering other fares besides the usual hamburgers and fries found at other counter service places. Etc etc... little things like that would make EPCOT extraordinary again.

[maggiemayhem]

i would love to see the WS expanded. why was it so european to begin with? was that just where the sponsorship was coming from at the time? i'd love to see more countries as well as some new rides!!

i miss the original figment ride. i don't really remember much about it, other than the fact that i loved it, and that there was a beautiful sparkly white (snowy??) room. the figment character is wholly underutilized. disney should really do much, much more with him. he's a charmer, that one.

[FutureProbeMe]

Get rid of The Seas with Nemo! I really don't think that movie charachters belong in Epcot. Epcot is about science, progress and future possibilities. SSE should be about communication and look into the future again, instead of ending 30 years in the past. A new ride based on the Horizons idea would be amazing. Epcot has always been my favorite park. Horizons and SSE have been my favorite rides for as long as I can remember. And I have been going to disney world every year since I was one! I can't even express how much those rides inspired me. They are probably a good part of the reason I am an aerospace engineering major now.

[jackskeleton1015]

Originally Posted by FutureProbeMe

Get rid of The Seas with Nemo! I really don't think that movie charachters belong in Epcot. Epcot is about science, progress and future possibilities. SSE should be about communication and look into the future again, instead of ending 30 years in the past. A new ride based on the Horizons idea would be amazing. Epcot has always been my favorite park. Horizons and SSE have been my favorite rides for as long as I can remember. And I have been going to disney world every year since I was one! I can't even express how much those rides inspired me. They are probably a good part of the reason I am an aerospace engineering major now.

I agree with you but I can't think of another area where there is something for younger kids to do.

[FutureProbeMe]

Well, I never had a problem liking Epcot when I was, say, five years old. In fact, like I said, it was my favorite park. But, a Little Einsteins adventure type thing would make sense for Epcot. I guess that kind of goes against my "no characters at Epcot" principle, but it fits and would be good for kids. It would even make sense to give it a certain amount of thrill. The ride vehicle could be the plane that they are always flying around in. Maybe it could hang from the track like the Peter Pan ride. Actually, that could be a pretty awesome ride. I imagine that it would go through different terrains. Even under water. I wouldn't actually have The Seas with Nemo taken out unless it would be moved to another park at low cost. It is a good ride and should no be wasted. Especially the Talking with Crush part.