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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    I base my contention that Space Mountain may be plussed with an audio soundtrack during the refurb because 7-months is plenty of time to do so, there is a critical need for it, and the WDW site's previous language served as confirmation enough...but even though removed, still supports a strong possibility. I do not base my notions on the popular opinion of this blog site or others.
    First, thanks for the kind words earlier in your post. They are appreciated. As to the onboard audio. The strong rumors that seem to be coming out of the insiders lately is that WDI does want to add on board audio to the attraction, but that its not in the budget for this current refurb. However they have been given the greenlight to rebuild the track as needed to support the added weight that on board audio will bring.

    Then, when the money does become available, audio can be added at a later date. Adding the audio, at least to my knowledge, wouldn't require that the attraction be down too long to do so. Most of the work could be done off site, since it primarily has to do with building the ride vehicles to support it.

    However no one knows what "later date" means though, whether it would just be a few months, or whether it might be a year or more.

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    I don't understand the weight issue. How could an onboard sound system weigh enough to require a stronger track system. Unless I'm missing something you would need Speakers in each seat, amplifiers, an audio storage device (probably some form of flash memory), some sort of sensor to signal what part of the track the car is at, a small computer to control everything, and a battery to power it (or some sort of bus bar on the track). I would think it would probably be under 10 pounds, I could probably put all of it in a bag and bring it on the ride with me so where's the problem.

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    The battery is heavier than you think, so they say.
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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie_Duke View Post
    The battery is heavier than you think, so they say.
    Yeah I would think the battery would be the heaviest part, but it could be done without a battery. I think the issue at DL was poor planning. They must have decided to go with heavy batteries and just didn't think about what effect it may have on the track. It could certainly be done at WDW and wouldn't require new track.

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    Lots of new weight (remember the cars must get bigger to put the speakers near your head, etc).. Lots of weight up HIGH = greater forces then weight down low. Lots and lots and lots of repetition means little additional stress adds up over time.

    Technology has come a long way since they first tried it at DL - so I'm sure they can do a lot better then when they first tried. JHM had pictures of the audio packs for Rip, Rockit at UO just the other day. Pretty compact and small.. but that still doesn't account for the additional vehicle volume and speakers themselves.

    In short.. I'm sure they learned their lesson and would engineer around it this time and the solution for DL doesn't mean it would be the same solution for WDW. 10+ years of technology, and many many waves of experience since then gives you an entirely new picture.
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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

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    Yeah I would think the battery would be the heaviest part, but it could be done without a battery.
    How can you power a couple-ten thousand watts of sound system without batteries? I think the extension chord would REALLY get tangled up with the train and track!

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

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    How can you power a couple-ten thousand watts of sound system without batteries? I think the extension chord would REALLY get tangled up with the train and track!
    The same way you power a monorail

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Peabody View Post
    How can you power a couple-ten thousand watts of sound system without batteries? I think the extension chord would REALLY get tangled up with the train and track!
    This isn't a rolling stones concert

    Even at the HIGH end.. you'd probably have in the order of maybe 100W per seat.
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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    yes, it has been hotly rumored that he queue area would be getting some audio upgrades and some places like the lift hill which already have audio would as well.

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    Confirmation of track is significant. Wonder if it's the rumored 'selective' updates, or a completely new track. 'a/v upgrades' is certainly not the same as saying on-board audio.

    If we get new track, new post show, and updated queue and effects.. I'd happy.
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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    The rumors the insiders have been reporting is 100% new track, however reusing many of the old supports where possible. So only partial track support replacement. The biggest cut to the refurb seems to be that the audio won't be onboard like at DL when the ride resumes and they'll just be refitting the old rockets. However it is being done so that if the money opens up in the future, the track will be able to support rockets with on board audio.

    The rumors also point to upgrades to the queue (which we've just recently seen confirmation of) as well as upgrades to the postshow, although to what extent we don't know.

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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    The good news is on-board audio is something that can be added without a major downtime assuming the entire vehicle is replaced.

    Work in the track-based equipment in steps overnight... build the vehicles offsite.. and then shutdown for maybe two weeks to do the integrated testing and certification and you'd be set.

    Getting the heavy construction out of the way is the biggest thing. What I find disappointing is we have no photo sluths in Orlando grabbing photos from the Contemp, walking path, etc. Oh well
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    Re: Space Mountain On-board Soundtrack Confirmed

    There have been a few people over at WDWmagic doing that, but there's been nothing worth reporting from those pics.

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