Get rid of Standby altogether, for Fastpass Attractions

[aimster]

Disney needs to get rid of FastPass altogether. Or charge for it and limit the number sold, like Universal.

[Barbaraann]

My day at DHS allowed me to do just about everything that I wanted to do. My basic complaint is, that when I got in the Toy Story Mania Line with my grandson, the wait time said 70 minutes. That time was inaccurate. Not by 5 minutes, but by 50. That is my beef. At that moment in time, I was willing to wait an hour for the ride, believing that my grandson would enjoy it. We actually had fun in the cue. Fun, up until the time that our 70 minutes had elapsed, and now we realized that we were only about 1/2 way through the cue. Now, I guess we could have gotten out of the line, at that point. I know that my grandson wished he had never gotten in the line at all.

[aimster]

Well, common theme park sense says to hit the popular rides and/or grab FastPasses as soon as the park opens because those rides are only going to get more busy as the day goes on.

[Barbaraann]

We were in that line at 11:40 a.m. We could not get a fastpass for that ride, because we already held one for Rock N' Roller Coaster. Actually when Kathy and I rode Toy Story Mania, immediately at opening that morning, we waited 40 minutes, like the sign said. There were hundreds of people lined up for fastpasses, and we opted to ride instead, and then go get a fastpass for Rock N' Roller Coaster, so Sean and Kathy could ride that later on, when Sean was arriving at the park. Sean came and we talked him into the Toy Story Mania line. It took so long that we thought for sure they would miss their time for Rock N' Roller Coaster.

I realize that I visited Disney World at a busy time. I realize that wait times are not always accurate. However, almost twice the time, just doesn't prove to me that the system in place is a good one, or fair to everyone involved.

I have no problem getting in a long line to ride a fun attraction. I feel cheated when the time spent in that line is so badly misrepresented.

[Kidgenie]

Originally Posted by Barbaraann

We were in that line at 11:40 a.m. We could not get a fastpass for that ride, because we already held one for Rock N' Roller Coaster. Actually when Kathy and I rode Toy Story Mania, immediately at opening that morning, we waited 40 minutes, like the sign said. There were hundreds of people lined up for fastpasses, and we opted to ride instead, and then go get a fastpass for Rock N' Roller Coaster, so Sean and Kathy could ride that later on, when Sean was arriving at the park. Sean came and we talked him into the Toy Story Mania line. It took so long that we thought for sure they would miss their time for Rock N' Roller Coaster.

I realize that I visited Disney World at a busy time. I realize that wait times are not always accurate. However, almost twice the time, just doesn't prove to me that the system in place is a good one, or fair to everyone involved.

I have no problem getting in a long line to ride a fun attraction. I feel cheated when the time spent in that line is so badly misrepresented.

I idea is not a good one. Today for example, at 10:30am, Fast Pass was showing a return time of 4:45 to 5:45pm. And today was not that busy as at 10:45am Tower and RNRC both had 30 minute waits. Your senario above is also a clear demonstration that you do not know how to best manage the system and that flame is directed at the system, not YOU. But any experienced Fast Pass person will know not to get stuck in the situation you were in were you could not get a fast pass for TSM because you had one for another attraction. Instead, get TSM First. In two hours or less you will be allowed to get another fast pass for any other attraction. At that point in time, you will have both a fast pass for the 2nd attraction of your choice AND your TSM one as well. Again, continual experience of how the system works gave me an advantage today over your experience above, and thats not fair. Also in your idea, anyone that arrived after TSM gave out all of its fast passes would not be able to ride at all, and thats just not going to fly over with guest very well. Remember that today sometime not long after noon, TSM fast passer were sold out. Sure if they did not have a stand by line, they could give 20% more fast passes, which means maybe a instead of giving them all out in 3 hours, maybe it will take 4 hours instead, and EVERYONE who arrives after Xpm (in this case 1pm) will not be permitted to ride.

Fast pass works ok for some attractions, but low capcity attraction like TSM should not have Fast pass at all. At DCA, it does not and typically has about an hour wait time. Stand by only.

[BANANAZ]

Clearly, the fp system and the regular line system is flawed, and seriously need some retooling.

Now lets take an example off another park. Six Flags. Their Flashpass system is similar to Disney's, except it has a few differences. The most noticeable difference is that they use a linked electronic system with little pagers that tell you when your ride is, and what time it is currently. They also make you pay for the system, so less people use them, which clears things up quite a bit. They also only have Flashpass systems on their most popular rides, which lets people ride smaller rides in between. To me, this system works much better.

[Barbaraann]

I don't like the fastpass system, and yet, I have used it, for the attractions that I do want to ride.

In the case of Toy Story Mania, we chose to ride the ride immediately rather than get a fastpass. We chose to get a fastpass for Rock 'N Roller Coaster because that was the ride that we figured Sean would want to ride when he arrived at the park. The decision to ride Toy Story Mania a second time, was one of impulse, on our part. None of us chooses to ride Tower of Terror, so that isn't in the mix. In this case, we should have kept walking.

[Tomorrowland_1967]

>>Get rid of Standby altogether, for Fastpass Attractions<<

Nah.
Sorry.
I think that should read: Get rid of Fastpass Attractions , for Standby altogether.

Fastpass has created more headaches .. than I think you realize.

Making the "standby" queue several times longer .... making their trip to the park less enjoyable.

[Barbaraann]

I figured that for popular rides, I'd rather have a chance to ride the ride at least once in any given day, than stand in an absurdely long line.

I admit to definitely not having any strategy at all for the fastpass attractions at DHS. I should have just been happy with my early morning ride, and not attempted a 2nd ride in the standby line. Again, I was willing to wait the 70 minutes. I guess that I was naiive to think that after that amount of time, I would be enjoying the ride with my grandson.

[nicoleloveswalt]

I have to say you had a very unusual experience. I have never once waited in a line for longer than the stated standby time. Often, I have waited less, but never more. Has this happened to you before? Or was it only the one time? It may have been an error, you may have looked at the wait time just before it changed or any other varying amount of things.

As for removing standby, I strongly disagree. If a person decides to get on a two hour line, it is entirely their right to do so.

And three hour standby lines for every coaster at Six Flags speak well to how their paid Flash Pass system works, don't they.

[Barbaraann]

Just my luck to be the exception to the rule. This is the only time that I have stood in a line that had such an inaccurate time. That's why, I was so surprised. Wait times have always been what they were posted as.

I actually had fun in the cue with my grandson and his mom. I took more photos, and it was nice and cool in there. My score wasn't as good as it was earlier in the day, but I did have a higher score than my grandson, and that was a plus.

I have learned that vacations are not always perfect. My day at DHS was actually one of the more enjoyable days of my trip. So many of the other things that I did that day, more than made up for my blunder.

[TDLFAN]

Originally Posted by Barbaraann

After seeing 2 hour standby lines for Toy Story Mania at DHS, and fastpasses gone by noon, on my last vacation, I came up with this idea.

I'm sorry Barbaraann but I can't agree with your idea. Why not get rid of Fastpass so the regular lnes can move faster? And while you are at it.. terminate special benefits for people in wheelchairs as well, who abuse the line by bringing their 20 (able-body) family members to the front of the line as well without wait time.

Point is.. the way Disney manages their lines at most popular attractions have become a joke. Pulling the plug on Fastpass would eliminate favoritism and dual class services. Let the lines move on a first come, first served, just like it has always been historically. Disney's re-invention of the propervial wheel is "discriminatory" in so many levels... it's not funny, nor fun to go the parks anymore, especially when you are there for only a few hours of the day. Your complaint about the times being different is one such reason why I have always been against Fastpass.

KILL FP NOW!!!!

[Barbaraann]

I guess my grandson is right. Nobody likes my idea but me. I guess I like it because, for me it would mean that I'd be guaranteed to ride popular rides probably fairly early in the day, since I always get to a park at park opening. I could then spend the rest of my day enjoying all the other great things that are at the parks.

It's a good thing, I'm not in charge.

[Kidgenie]

Originally Posted by Barbaraann

I guess my grandson is right. Nobody likes my idea but me. I guess I like it because, for me it would mean that I'd be guaranteed to ride popular rides probably fairly early in the day, since I always get to a park at park opening. I could then spend the rest of my day enjoying all the other great things that are at the parks.

It's a good thing, I'm not in charge.

But I sure we still think your terrific it was an interesting idea and opened up some good fun conversation. In the end, I completely agree with TDLFAN. FP needs to go. But the average unknowning guests views it as a benefit, not realizing what it does to the stand by lines.

[Barbaraann]

I learned, first hand what it did to the standby line.

I've got to get out more often.