More Pirates in Adventureland

[joe80x86]

I thought DL just rethemed it to Tarzan?

[GraceysGirl]

Jungle Cruise is not just a Disney classic, it was Walt's favorite ride. I think it's a really important piece of history in the park. What makes JC great is that the jokes are corny and the ride is older. We all know this and those of us who like it ride it over and over.

As for Pirates they really have taken over. I enjoyed the movies but enough is enough. The park would lose a lot of it's appeal/magic for me if Pirates started taking over every ride.

[KISSman]

Originally Posted by Magenta Panther

I've been thinking about the lameness of The Jungle Cruise...

This is where you lost me.

Seriously, I love Pirates to death, but the Jungle Cruise must remain.

[Jspider]

Disney's got too much pirates as is, I personally wasn't all that impressed with the trilogy as a whole though I loved the first movie alot (the other two really ride off the success of the first, it's sad when the consistency of writing is below Venture Brothers )

as it stands Disney needs to fix and revert back some of the dialog on the Pirates ride before I'm willing to conceded more park space to teh franchise (wouldn't mind if they could find some room to do a pirates movie walkthrough experience, maybe take some ideas from DLP and DL's Island and combine them into a nice treasure hunting garden)

I don't see the n33d for another pirates ride though. Jungle Cruise could definitly use some specking out, a whirlpool might not be a bad idea, but it really needs to bring in the new effects already found in DL and maybe even a few of the ideas from Hong Kong? It's a fairly undermaintaned ride, if they could upgrade the effects and polish it a bit then I'd say the only thing the skippers need is a bit of new material to rotate around (WDW's skippers seem to be unenthused sometimes and often seem to indicate that the ride might only have one script, at least in my experience)

[Cosmic Ray]

Demolish the Jungle Cruise? Blasphemy!

After ruining the Tiki Room and putting up that eyesore of a carpets ride, that's pretty much the only thing left they could do to ruin Adventureland.

[ORD84]

seriously PoTC should be where the Pirates remain, for them to start bleeding over into other areas of the park would really ruin alot of the flavour..

Jungle Cruise is one of the few rides that you can go and really relax with your entire family on, it'd be sad to see it go...

IMO they should redo the overlay and just place the Jack sparrow in one area and maybe some of the other characters from the movies in it as well, like admiral norington etc. etc. it's too much of a look it's Jack Sparrow hiding in that, oh there he is again, o there he is again ride now IMO..

[BANANAZ]

That would be like HSM taking over DHS and running amok. It's bad enough already. Don't make it worse.

[Jspider]

Originally Posted by ORD84

seriously PoTC should be where the Pirates remain, for them to start bleeding over into other areas of the park would really ruin alot of the flavour..

Jungle Cruise is one of the few rides that you can go and really relax with your entire family on, it'd be sad to see it go...

IMO they should redo the overlay and just place the Jack sparrow in one area and maybe some of the other characters from the movies in it as well, like admiral norington etc. etc. it's too much of a look it's Jack Sparrow hiding in that, oh there he is again, o there he is again ride now IMO..

well they sorta have barbossa and really as this series goes on there probably won't be many other signature characters.

I'm kinda afraid that Davy Jones won't age well. The effect is pretty amazing to look at but at the same time the CG part of it is starting to look more cartoony everytime I see it which really hurts the realisum of the attraction a bit. I really wish they could do more to stirr up the water beneath the fake waterfall so that the effect was more believable (just blow some bubbles in the water to simulate impact).

The change that really hurts it is all the "Jack Sparrow dialog", I can't think of a single reason why Barbossa would demand Jack Sparrow except that it was an easy way to let guests know he's there. Likewise the dunking scene asking about Jack Sparrow is also without point. I think the fat pirates new dialog is the best change really, it actually fits with the attraction.
If they could get Barbossa asking only for treasure and get his dialog loop as long as the origional blackbeards was it'd be great, if they change the dunking scene back to it's longer less repetitive version then the story basically turns into Barbossa raiding the city for treasure and Jack Sparrow outsmarting them all for the gold in the end. Sudennly it goes from flagratnly shilling out the movie to being a cleaver mix of old and new.

[missymouse]

First, I too love the movies, however, I have to agree that the pirates added to POTC didn't work for me it takes the magic out...I got to see pirates...not Johnny Depp

Second, I believe it was cursed Aztec gold not 9 pieces of 8.

Lastly, if we take out the Jungle Cruise (which is a classic) what's next? The Bears like DL?

[Exomonia]

Nah, wouldn't take out Jungle Cruise. Its an original and the second best Jungle Cruise (Hong Kong has best.) and if they were to take out something, such as the magic carpets, no more pirates. I reckon the upcoming Prince of Persia could be goer for an upcoming attraction.

[Jspider]

Originally Posted by Exomonia

Nah, wouldn't take out Jungle Cruise. Its an original and the second best Jungle Cruise (Hong Kong has best.) and if they were to take out something, such as the magic carpets, no more pirates. I reckon the upcoming Prince of Persia could be goer for an upcoming attraction.

well now I'm curious as to what cridentials you base your opinion on? Not to say your wrong since everyone looks for something different on this ride.

I love that WDW has a bigger jungle cruise and that everything's in a different order. But after both visits I've made to the resort, I'd have to say that I mostly experienced a Jungle Cruise that easily COULD be the leader. It honestly felt like there were more skippers lazily going through the motions in florida and the attraction itself seemed to creak along with limited/dated effects. I really wish they could just add the best from California and Hong Kong and maybe figure something more to add to the temple area to really throw this one over the top. Animal Kingdom is nearby, you'd think they could maybe modernize this old creaker with some lessons learned from it's newer brother .

Gotta love that jungle cruise humor though. I suppose even if it's the same jokes it's always the delivery that makes or breaks the ride.

[Magenta Panther]

I pretty much expected some of the replies here. The Jungle Cruise is an original part of Disneyland, and yeah, Walt enjoyed it. It really wowed the crowds during the 50's and 60's, no doubt. But I'd bet a cookie that if he were here today he'd rip it out, replace it with something cooler, or spend a bundle refurbing it. BUT of course there is no way that the Bean Counters running Disney today would ever do any of those things. Too risky, too costly. So IMO the closest we'd get to anything being done with the dated, lame joke Jungle Cruise has become would be to retheme it, and Pirates is the best choice, since it's a proven franchise, and has a lot of the old Disney magic in its figurative blood. Myself, while I don't want Pirates to take over Adventureland, I think more of them would liven the place up considerably.

I have ridden the Jungle Cruise twice and both times, people on the ride were sneering and making fun of it! I was embarrassed for the CM and for the park. The JC AAs look as dated as the AAs in Splash Mountain. It's SO lame that the whole experience is treated by the CMs as a gag, which is NOT what Walt intended for the ride, if you think about it.

So anyway, that's my take. I still say that if Disney wants to compete against Potter, Pirates is the best way to go.

And I was dead set against Disney putting Johnny Depp in the Pirates ride. It seemed like a shallow shill to hype a movie. But when I saw it, I thought it was excellently done. I like the Davey Jones addition too. In fact, I think the Imagineers ought to take it further and really punch up the battle-at-sea scene (which I've already discussed here). Well, at this point I'm repeating myself, so I'll saw off.

[GraceysGirl]

[QUOTE If they could get Barbossa asking only for treasure and get his dialog loop as long as the origional blackbeards was it'd be great, if they change the dunking scene back to it's longer less repetitive version then the story basically turns into Barbossa raiding the city for treasure and Jack Sparrow outsmarting them all for the gold in the end. Sudennly it goes from flagratnly shilling out the movie to being a cleaver mix of old and new.[/QUOTE]

This is a great idea. I really felt when I saw the refurb that they didn't take time to make a good story line just tossed Jack in and recorded some dialog but didn't take the time to make the whole thing make sense.

[SirGoofy]

Oh boy...this is an interesting(read:terrible) idea.

Originally Posted by Magenta Panther

I have ridden the Jungle Cruise twice and both times, people on the ride were sneering and making fun of it! I was embarrassed for the CM and for the park.

Considering our numbers are through the roof, and our survey scores are some of the highest in the park, I would think the large majority of guests disagree with you.

Originally Posted by Magenta Panther

The JC AAs look as dated as the AAs in Splash Mountain.

Uhh...you do realize that JC opened 21 years before Splash, right?

Originally Posted by Magenta Panther

It's SO lame that the whole experience is treated by the CMs as a gag, which is NOT what Walt intended for the ride, if you think about it.

No, it's not treated by a gag by the skippers. We love that ride with all our hearts.

And yes, originally the ride was a serious safari attraction, but Walt himself realized it wasn't working and changed it to the humorous attraction you see today.

And WDI will be spending the money to update the ride sometime soon.

[Magenta Panther]

Originally Posted by SirGoofy

Oh boy...this is an interesting(read:terrible) idea.



Considering our numbers are through the roof, and our survey scores are some of the highest in the park, I would think the large majority of guests disagree with you.




Uhh...you do realize that JC opened 21 years before Splash, right?



No, it's not treated by a gag by the skippers. We love that ride with all our hearts.

And yes, originally the ride was a serious safari attraction, but Walt himself realized it wasn't working and changed it to the humorous attraction you see today.

And WDI will be spending the money to update the ride sometime soon.

The lines I stood in for Jungle Cruise were pretty long. Which only made it worse when I found out how cheesy the ride is. And if you skippers don't treat it as a gag, then what's with all the jokes you make that imply how lame it is? Actually, that was the worst part of the ride...realizing how dated it is, and how the skippers have to practically apologize for it in order to make it even marginally entertaining.

I sure hope the ride's going to be updated. But it's gonna cost a serious piece of change. I'll believe it when I see it.