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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Wow, can't believe I was so close.... I went to the BBQ over the summer.
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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Quote Originally Posted by OogieBoogie View Post
    I'm going ahead and copying a few of the pictures here for people to look at so we can see the shape River Country is in now.
    Here's one of Tri-circle-D's photos from the thread, which totally makes my blood boil:



    This is from inside some old maintenance or cast member shed near the barrel bridge. Notice that the CM "Excellence" recognition plaque is lying on the floor amongst the debris! WTF!!

    Why wasn't this plaque saved and taken to TDO? Is this how Disney truly feels about their cast members? Just take their engraved plaque and toss it in the trash, now that River Country is defunct?

    Wow, just wow. Disney really cares about their cast members. What a disgusting message this photo sends, along with the others, about how much Disney cares for their property and assets, including their people.

    Too bad a "real" local government cannot force Disney to clean up this mess and bulldoze the stagnant water collectors like the pool and slides. RC sits at a prime spot in Fort Wilderness. The location would make a great picnic area, especially for large family get-togethers.
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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Wow, cool!


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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Any chance someone could pop over to the old Treasure/Discovery Island and take some pics around the island? XD
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    It's not poetic, it's pathetic that Disney continues to just let this place rot.

    They were too cheap to keep it open after the post 9/11 decline in tourism, they were too cheap to reopen it when the crowds came back and they are too cheap to just bulldoze the place now that they clearly don't ever want to reopen it. Anyway you look at it, it's just sad. I don't buy the excuse that Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach are meant to be it's replacements as if it were RC would have closed in 1995, not 7 years later. I also don't buy the excuse that there was anything wrong with the water because Disney lets people swim in Bay Lake for the Triathlon* and the place was open for 26 years and you'd think within that time if there was an issue they would have found out alot sooner. Disney in all probability just didn't want to pay the lifegaurds, concession staff and maintainence workers required to run the place and figured shutting it down was an easy way to save $.

    And just throwing a plaque in the trash is horrible thing to do. At least find a wall to put it on.

    *Apparently you can't swim unless it's above a certain degree in temperature but since the Triathlon takes place in September (there's actually 2 with the other in May) you have to think it's pretty warm outside.
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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSkyDriveBy View Post
    Too bad a "real" local government cannot force Disney to clean up this mess and bulldoze the stagnant water collectors like the pool and slides. RC sits at a prime spot in Fort Wilderness. The location would make a great picnic area, especially for large family get-togethers.
    Lol Real government telling people what to do with Their property? Government that powerful is way too powerful. What Disney is doing with a walled off, harmless piece of property that they own is none of the goverment's concern.

    The best thing is to leave that piece of property alone. It's closed and fenced off for a reason. It's not any harm to the public so the government needs to mind their own business and leave that piece of land be because the property owners want it that way.

    And about the plaque.... Do you think it would look better in the trash? because thats where it would probably be by now. There is no cast members working there anymore, who is there to be recognized for their work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie_Duke View Post
    It's not poetic, it's pathetic that Disney continues to just let this place rot.

    They were too cheap to keep it open after the post 9/11 decline in tourism, they were too cheap to reopen it when the crowds came back and they are too cheap to just bulldoze the place now that they clearly don't ever want to reopen it. Anyway you look at it, it's just sad. I don't buy the excuse that Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach are meant to be it's replacements as if it were RC would have closed in 1995, not 7 years later. I also don't buy the excuse that there was anything wrong with the water because Disney lets people swim in Bay Lake for the Triathlon* and the place was open for 26 years and you'd think within that time if there was an issue they would have found out alot sooner. Disney in all probability just didn't want to pay the lifegaurds, concession staff and maintainence workers required to run the place and figured shutting it down was an easy way to save $.

    And just throwing a plaque in the trash is horrible thing to do. At least find a wall to put it on.

    *Apparently you can't swim unless it's above a certain degree in temperature but since the Triathlon takes place in September (there's actually 2 with the other in May) you have to think it's pretty warm outside.
    Wow, this is strong stuff!

    I don't think shutting River Country was an 'economic' decision - it was based on introducing better facilities in other parts of the property. Facilities that would cater for many more guests and in much safer surroundings.

    Despite my own negative feelings towards River Country, it was often full by 10:30 most days, thereafter, entrance to the park was very sketchy until early afternoon - in periods where guests attendance would register 5 or above on most touring planners, for the other Disney parks. So, If you were visiting RC from off property, or another Disney resort your journey would often be a waste of time. The new water parks removed some of these problems.

    Also, it was very clear that RC was getting old and that the attractions within it were getting towards the end of their 'safe' lifespan. In addition to this, I remember being told by a cast member that swimming in the lake was being banned - it was over an Easter weekend, with cast members driving along the beach in a Hummer!

    The water contamination issue was really concerning them and I recall asking what would happen to RC, they explained it would likely close... which it did. They went on to say that the new water parks would be better anyway!

    All these years later, I'd bet many of the guests enjoying Blizzard Beach and Typhoon Lagoon don't even know that RC existed and those that do (like us) are probably very happy in the 'newer' surroundings.

    I agree it's a shame that the old employee board had been thrown into a trash heap, but who is it hurting - if it was that nostalgic, someone would have 'claimed' it by now! As for bulldozing the site, it's not necessary. Access is hard to achieve unless you really try and in many ways the entire site is 'returning to nature' by itself - a fitting end to an old and antiquated Disney relic...

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    Seems very odd how they just let it sit like that, since it is pretty clear it isn't going to reopen as a water park. One would think that they would have at least found a new purpose for that space, since it is located in on a prime piece of the property. Their decision to let it rot away has been one of the most perplexing decisions Disney has made in recent years. Also it is not very difficult to find this old relic if you attend Mickey's Backyard BBQ, which borders the park with a cheap fence separating the two. Too bad I never got a change to experience the park before it closed.

    Also even more surprising the condition the former park was left in before abandoning it, I can't believe all the trash left behind! That plaque should have been presented to the last CM to recieve the award or another recipient on the plaque, I wouldn't be too surprised if a few of those people still work somewhere at WDW. At the very least it should be on display somewhere in a backstage area of Fort Wilderness, the water park is a part of the resort's history.

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    Notice the big capacity differences?
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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Yup I agree you put the argument in stark perspective as beloved to some that RC was it's capacity was severly lacking when compared with BB and TL..and even though I don't think that it's fine the way they gaurd this property the fact remains that the people that do gain entry are far and few between and many of which are escorted by CMs for their own safety...

    Yes that plaque sitting in a trash heap is pretty apauling, however if it wasn't taken by one of the CMs or by SOMEBODY near there it must not have held too much sentimental value to them otherwise it'd be hanging on their wall at this very moment..so for now I'm more than happy to let bygons be bygons
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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    sad to se it in that condition but like others have said very fascinating seeing nature grow around it.

    There is only one thing Disney should do and that is to fill in the concrete pool and remove items like the plastic banners and rafts that could actually be hazardous to the critters in the area and environment. The rest of it is mostly wood and some fake rocks which nature is doing a great job in taking care off.

    Imagine the money Disney could have done by selling some of those items there are a couple items i would not mind having to remind me of the peaceful time i had there. i have never gone back to blizzard beach or typhoon lagoon because i found them to chaotic but there was something about river country that kept bringing me back. The beaufitul natural views and the peaceful environment

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    It burns me to see them contaminate the environment with all this trash. They talk about saving the environment in Epcot, when just a few miles away, they're letting all this trash just sit. The least they could do is to remove the plastic and fill in the pools! Shame on Disney for being so hypocritical!


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    I think all the trash is mainly in the one building with that creepy doll head (lol, why is it there?!). It shouldn't effect any animals.

    And Baloo, if you go to TL/BB in any month besides june/july/beginning of August then you'll basically have the parks to youself- which is quite nice.

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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Imagineer Scott View Post
    I think all the trash is mainly in the one building with that creepy doll head (lol, why is it there?!). It shouldn't effect any animals.

    And Baloo, if you go to TL/BB in any month besides june/july/beginning of August then you'll basically have the parks to youself- which is quite nice.
    Still, all that stagnant water created by the plastic and pools creates a large problem as well. Besides, that shack is going to fall sooner or later, opening it up for animals.


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    Re: Disney's lost water park discovered

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    Notice the big capacity differences?
    Duh ya, having 2 open instead of 3 is less capacity and potential revue in total.

    What was the point in posting those pictures? It Doesn't explain you theory as to why RC closed as already stated the park was open for years after BB was. BB and TL were never meant to be replacements but additional sources of revenue and capacity for the demand for water parks. RC remained busy while the other two were open which it probably still would have been if Disney kept it open. The appeal to those staying at FW and WL was huge and always ensured that the park would close due to capacity. Again this remained even after BB opened.

    And if water was such an issue would the cost of closing off the portion that let in lake water been such a terrible thing in the long run if Disney could have continued to make money off the property? Right now they're making 0 at the moment and just giving a home for more mosquitos.

    Trash should be cleaned up and land cleared to shorten the process of nature taking over and possibly make the space suitable again for future ideas. Again just letting it sit there does nothing for Disney's future income statements or the immediate wildlife.

    As for the plaque it could have been at least put up on ebay or given to one of the former CMs.

    Still all this talk of RC is nothing compared to the unfinished Pop Century buildings which paying guests have to look at from across the lake!
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