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    Some hotel questions...

    As I've been sitting around being indecisive about the Orlando resort VS the Tokyo one, I've noticed some observations about the hotels:

    1) What is it with the rooms opening up to the outside? Even newer resorts like CSR design their room buildings like apartments, with rooms that open up to an outdoors balcony, with a walk to hotel services. I guess I'm a little too used to Las Vegas but it seems like you have to pay Deluxe prices if you want a room that opens to an inside hallway with an elevator that takes you down into the hotel? But even the Poly does that, too, it would seem. Does it feel safe walking around your hotel at dark?

    2) Ditto for roomkeeping. I read plenty of reports of poor roomkeeping in nearly all value resorts, most moderate resorts, and even some deluxe ones! Are the rooms really this messy?

    3) Anyway, I thought I was coming down to either the POFQ or the Wilderness Lodge, but I'm not sure how much more I should expect to pay for the Lodge. AllEars' page lists about a $60 difference for a value priced room, but the Disney web site seems to say that the cost is fully doubled (same dates)! For that price I could go stay at the Contemporary and get Monorail.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    You get a monorail at TDR too.
    It all comes down to this... you want a value Disney experience in a MK that needs refurbishing? Then go to WDW. Want a fuller Disney experience that give you back what you paid for and then some, then go to TDR. However, if you do not want to be critical of your 1st visit to WDW, then go to WDW instead. Trust me...you will not see WDW again in the same light after you have experienced TDR.

    Now if I was to choose hotels at WDW...I'd go to the Wilderness Lodge. It has more atmosphere and pleasant surroundings over the Contemporary. Even DAK Lodge would be a better option over the good old Contemporary as it is now a days...

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    The Wilderness Lodge is a great hotel. Doesn't have the monorail, but the boat ride over to the Magic Kingdom is nice. We preferred to drive over taking the bus for the other parks, however. The atmosphere is quite nice and the rooms were very clean. Our rooms were in great shape every night when we returned from the parks during our last visit.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    As I've been sitting around being indecisive about the Orlando resort VS the Tokyo one, I've noticed some observations about the hotels:

    1) What is it with the rooms opening up to the outside? Even newer resorts like CSR design their room buildings like apartments, with rooms that open up to an outdoors balcony, with a walk to hotel services. I guess I'm a little too used to Las Vegas but it seems like you have to pay Deluxe prices if you want a room that opens to an inside hallway with an elevator that takes you down into the hotel? But even the Poly does that, too, it would seem. Does it feel safe walking around your hotel at dark?
    Disney's value resorts aren't really resorts at all to begin with. They (and the mods too although far better and real resorts IMHO) are motel-style. That means outside corridors. You are correct in having to pay deluxe prices in order to have interior halls. You can't compare WDW resorts to any major Vegas resort built since 1989 (when Mirage debuted). They put WDW and almost any other resorts to shame, but with casinos they can afford to spend $2 billion on one resort.

    To answer your question though, I have never felt unsafe walking at any WDW resort from the All Stars to the GF. No one is going to attack you, rob you, molest you, beat you or try to sell you a timeshare (well, except for the DVC booths in the lobbies!).

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    2) Ditto for roomkeeping. I read plenty of reports of poor roomkeeping in nearly all value resorts, most moderate resorts, and even some deluxe ones! Are the rooms really this messy?
    In a word, yes.

    It isn't the values. It's ALL of WDW resorts. I had problems at the GF. I've had problems at Pop Century. I've had problems at WL. I've had problems at BC. I've had problems at both parts of Port Orleans. I've had problems at the Dolphin. I have refused rooms at the YC and CBR and Coronado too because they were downright dumpy. So, yeah, they have major problems.

    Housekeeping is one of the worst and most widely spread problem at WDW.

    Some major complaints I've had of late include sheets stained (a few times with blood, once with fresh blood ---- a MJAOR health problem) and not changed between guests; bathrooms that have been left with hair of prior guests, stained/dirty carpeting that isn't regularly steam-cleaned; cheap TVs; housekeeps ignoring areas that aren't right in front of the guest, which means food is often left under the bed (cereal is a biggie), once I had to point out that a room at the Dolphin hadn't been vacuumed in nine months (since a prior renovation by bringing a convention form caked in three inches of dust from under the bed to the front desk); housekeepers leave all sorts of mystery fluids/substances on nightstands, tables and drawers; they don't report things that need fixing like lightbulbs that have burned out or broken bilnds/remotes etc ...those are problems I have had in the past 6-7 years at various Disney resorts.

    Again, I believe most guests are too ignorant to notice or just high on pixie dust. I will NOT accept a room I feel isn't clean.


    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania

    3) Anyway, I thought I was coming down to either the POFQ or the Wilderness Lodge, but I'm not sure how much more I should expect to pay for the Lodge. AllEars' page lists about a $60 difference for a value priced room, but the Disney web site seems to say that the cost is fully doubled (same dates)! For that price I could go stay at the Contemporary and get Monorail.
    WL is my fave deluxe resort and POFQ is my fave moderate resort. The latter was fully renovated in 2003, but is showing signs of abuse and neglect already. WL hasn't had a thorough rehab in years, and most rooms have a 'beat up' feel.

    The Contemporary is in the midst of a major rehab. The new rooms are the best on WDW property and very upscale and trendy. But there's no guarantee you won't get an old room that's falling apart.

    As with any WDW resort -- or any hotel anywhere -- you take your chances when you book. But if the room isn't acceptable to you for any reason involving cleanliness or shabby state, you have every right to DEMAND to be moved to suitable accomodations, even at another resort.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by TDLFAN
    Now if I was to choose hotels at WDW...I'd go to the Wilderness Lodge. It has more atmosphere and pleasant surroundings over the Contemporary. Even DAK Lodge would be a better option over the good old Contemporary as it is now a days...
    Actually, I can't afford the Contemporary. I can't afford the Wilderness Lodge on the days I chose as well and that's confusing because all sources online say that in these Value-priced days, the Lodge should cost somewhere between Port Orleans and the Contemporary.

    I was just saying that if I could afford either hotel, it would make no sense to pay Contemporary prices for a hotel without monorail service.

    Quote Originally Posted by WDW1974
    You can't compare WDW resorts to any major Vegas resort built since 1989 (when Mirage debuted). They put WDW and almost any other resorts to shame, but with casinos they can afford to spend $2 billion on one resort.
    I understand that perfectly. I'm just saying.. Well, the big DL Hotel's towers have interior hallways (I think the old motel portion was converted into shops then torn down to make way for DTD West) and they're oooooOOOOLD. So I'm kind of suprised to see that so few of the many WDW hotels don't have interior halls.

    Not that I'm TOO concerned about it. But traveling alone that motel feeling made me a little unsure.

    To answer your question though, I have never felt unsafe walking at any WDW resort from the All Stars to the GF. No one is going to attack you, rob you, molest you, beat you or try to sell you a timeshare
    LMAO @ timeshare! Here in LV we tend to think of them as the Strip's cockroaches.

    It's ALL of WDW resorts. I had problems at the GF. I've had problems at Pop Century. I've had problems at WL. I've had problems at BC. I've had problems at both parts of Port Orleans. I've had problems at the Dolphin. I have refused rooms at the YC and CBR and Coronado too because they were downright dumpy. So, yeah, they have major problems.
    Man, oh man! Thanks for the heads-up.

    fresh blood...food is often left under the bed (cereal is a biggie)...mystery fluids/substances
    Holy cow!!!

    I will NOT accept a room I feel isn't clean.
    Neither will I, I guess my standards are too high now. I don't expect Bellagio in a Mouse Ears hat, but at least the cheap rooms in Bally's.

    As with any WDW resort -- or any hotel anywhere -- you take your chances when you book. But if the room isn't acceptable to you for any reason involving cleanliness or shabby state, you have every right to DEMAND to be moved to suitable accomodations, even at another resort.
    Understood. I've read enough stories about the high end mousetraps make me cringe, ruining people's trips but those people never demanding anything for it, so I'm aware to be a rock if about this if I have to.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    I guess my standards are too high now.
    Then say no more. GO to TDR!

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude. 10-4 on the TDL lovin', but don't push it, kay?

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    I won't let you off that easily.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Get to the Lodge, you'll love it.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    If my dates change, I'll try, but chances are I can't afford it.

    Another question, non-hotel: What's going on with the Living Seas? Anybody know how long they're closed for? I enjoy aquatic exhibits and the restaurant sounded like a must-try.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by WDW1974
    The Contemporary is in the midst of a major rehab. The new rooms are the best on WDW property and very upscale and trendy. But there's no guarantee you won't get an old room that's falling apart.
    There is if you book 12th 10th Floor Concierge.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Animal Kingdom Lodge... it's a little bit out of the way (nearer to the Animal Kingdom park as opposed to Magic Kingdom) and it's one of the cheapest Deluxe resorts. Way awesome restaurants, pretty decent pool area, indoor hallways... animals right outside of your balcony!!!

    It's great. I loved my stay there, loved everything about it except the people that I went with.

    Splurge a little and get a savanna view room (nothing beats getting your refilliable mug full of hot chocolate or coffee in the morning and sitting back on your balcony, watching the animals graze and just kick it right off your balcony)... otherwise you can just view the animals in the public common viewing areas.

    Totally not to be missed.

    Also, check out www.mousesavers.com! You can get codes and stuff (they have them for the AKL all the time!) to make your stay more cost effective.

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by WDW1974
    Housekeeping is one of the worst and most widely spread problem at WDW.
    Just to provide a bit of balance (& I would never attempt to say that WDW1974 is incorrect!!!), my perception is totally different. I've stayed in almost all of the on property resorts over the years (except for the GF, the Poly & the WL), and not once have I had any kind of housekeeping problem that would warrant a complaint. I visit twice a year, for anywhere from 4 to 8 days, so you could average around 12 to 15 days a year for the past 10 years. And I used to travel for a living, and spent maybe 20 days a month or more in hotels, so I'm pretty familiar with what they should be like.

    So we have a difference of perception, with me seeing no problem at all and WDW1974 seeing the sky falling. My guess is that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Don't freak out expecting cigarette butts in the sink and blood on the sheets. But don't be shy in letting Disney know if there are any problems. And above all, DON'T let any of that ruin your vacation!

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    Re: Some hotel questions...

    I just decided not to take the vacation at all. I had booked hotel and airfare and was looking at restaurants and stuff when I stumbled upon way too much information about the, er, habitat that WDW resides in.

    Too many horror stories about Monster Bugs in rooms, snakes bigger than children, wild alligators on-site and more. I realize that WDW isn't airlifting people away all the time for poisonous bites and missing limbs, but that's the kind of environment that turns a northener like me completely pale. I think I'll just save my skin and go back to DL instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyMania
    I realize that WDW isn't airlifting people away all the time for poisonous bites and missing limbs, but that's the kind of environment that turns a northener like me completely pale.
    That's because the incidents are very rare. Out of the millions of vacationers who visit WDW annually, you found a few stories? And that's going to stop you from enjoying yourself?
    "Here You Leave the World of California Today and Enter the World of, um, er, California Today."

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