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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    It wouldn't hurt Yahoo to get their facts straight, regardless of what Universal originally called it.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Quote Originally Posted by JtnOrl View Post
    It wouldn't hurt Yahoo to get their facts straight, regardless of what Universal originally called it.
    I believe that is still Universal Orlando's line. Punch "harry potter" (sans quotes) into Google or Google News and the second suggestion listed is "harry potter theme park". It is the same line being reported by other news outlets. This is not a single fluke on the part of Yahoo!, but more likely something still being pushed by Universal Orlando.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    I'm afraid Potterland might end up being very underwhelming, but how would I know?
    I hope TDO looks at this new dark ride and decides that it is okay to sink a large sum of money into a small area.
    All I know is that I am NOT going to Orlando this year specifically to see WWoHP.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Quote Originally Posted by lazyboy97O View Post
    I think it could be positive, but if too many people decide to add on a trip to Walt Disney World it could be bad. Extra attendance could encourage Disney to rest on its laurels.


    It is not Yahoo! who is to blame, the "theme park within a theme park" line comes from Universal Orlando. It may very well prove to be Universal's undoing in all of this if people come expecting a day's worth of activities only to find an Island.
    I agree 100%. I was pondering the very same thought. After all, this "theme park within a theme park" is a REALLY small 'theme park'. Its even smaller than the world's smallest Disneyland in HK. And people complain about that.

    I wonder what people are expecting in this, a fantastical experience? a huge land with tons to do? an authentic Hogwarts castle that is life-size? I think it would be safe to assume that guests will be disappointed. Unlike WDW, IOA is a one-time visit whereas WDW can be visited again and again.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    I think in the short term it will hurt WDW, as most people said, it will draw people from WDW. Eventually, though (and this is just a hope), Disney will realize that they need to create new and modern lands to keep things fresh.

    Personally I can't figure out why JK Rowling didn't go with Disney for the creation of this 'PotterLand' as I would have thought that the attention to details that the Imagineers have (or should we say have) would have better suited her.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Quote Originally Posted by awaflyboy View Post
    Personally I can't figure out why JK Rowling didn't go with Disney for the creation of this 'PotterLand' as I would have thought that the attention to details that the Imagineers have (or should we say have) would have better suited her.
    Personally, I think Universal was better suited, I mean look what they did after all. I would say that is Disney quality, if not better. Curious as to how Disney would have used the Potter Franchise. Uni always manage to keep things fresh, they rarely over use ride systems like Disney. Plus there's sort of a mystery with Universal that you don't get with Disney. Disney has magic, Universal has mystery. Not to mention Potter is a perfect fit for IOA. I don't know what park Disney would put a Potter-land in.


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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    I actually don't think WDW will be affected negatively at 'tall. (in my best Hermione Granger impression)

    Think about it for a second. Orlando is a tourist destination, much like Vegas or Southern California. If a family travels far to do one thing, they will probably do their best to see it all.

    In other words, Harry Potter at Universal will convince many to finally make that trip to florida and yes, Walt Disney World being a super star will be on their agenda. So I don't think this will hurt their attendance.

    BUT... what I think will happen is that people will see the drastic difference in experience between the two resorts and not think that the theme parks in Disney World are that great or even fun. I think WDW has aimed a little too low for too long and it's really going to hurt them in the long run.

    They've got Star Tours and Fantasyland coming... but they're going to need a whole lot more than that.


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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Quote Originally Posted by lazyboy97O View Post
    I believe that is still Universal Orlando's line. Punch "harry potter" (sans quotes) into Google or Google News and the second suggestion listed is "harry potter theme park". It is the same line being reported by other news outlets. This is not a single fluke on the part of Yahoo!, but more likely something still being pushed by Universal Orlando.
    It's really everyone else calling it a park at this point, not Universal. I haven't heard them use the "theme park within a theme park" line in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by HKDLFAN View Post
    I agree 100%. I was pondering the very same thought. After all, this "theme park within a theme park" is a REALLY small 'theme park'. Its even smaller than the world's smallest Disneyland in HK. And people complain about that.

    I wonder what people are expecting in this, a fantastical experience? a huge land with tons to do? an authentic Hogwarts castle that is life-size? I think it would be safe to assume that guests will be disappointed. Unlike WDW, IOA is a one-time visit whereas WDW can be visited again and again.
    I can't speak for the uninformed masses, but I'm personally expecting more of what I already see, and what I see is high quality. And IOA may be a one-time visit for yourself, but that doesn't apply to everyone else. I also fail to see how WDW's parks offer more incentive to return than any other comparable park.

    Quote Originally Posted by awaflyboy View Post
    Personally I can't figure out why JK Rowling didn't go with Disney for the creation of this 'PotterLand' as I would have thought that the attention to details that the Imagineers have (or should we say have) would have better suited her.
    I don't follow where you're going with this. Have you looked at Universal's results so far? Disney couldn't do any better if they tried.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Universal is pushing (or allowing) the misconception of "A Whole New Theme Park." To we who follow theme park developments, that seems like a dumb move - overstating your product.

    It may be smart.

    Universal has been dogged since 1999 by their lack of success in marketing IOA as a second theme park and Universal "Escape" as a mini, WDW-like resort. To non-theme park aficionados (i.e., most people) and those outside Orlando, IOA never really made it on the radar.

    Universal Execs see the Potter opening as their second chance to correct past mistakes... to let people see that they offer multiple theme parks (something that wasn't well conveyed in 1999). They are targeting people that have never been to IOA before and will be drawn by Potter. To this demographic, IOA may as well have opened in 2009.

    Regardless, it is not a Harry Potter Theme Park (or even a theme park within a theme park), as has been so often stated in the press. But Uni is going to roll with this misconception, betting that Harry will be enough to get first-timers to visit, and the quality of the Wizarding World as well as the rest of the park will leave them satisfied/wanting to come back.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Regarding Potter's success.

    Orlando (WDW, Uni, Seaworld) is a relatively mature tourism market which means while Potter will give a boost to overall 2010 & 2011 visitors, the mid-term trend is pretty stable (e.g., 3% growth/year).

    That means that all the attractions in Orlando are going to be vying for the same tourist dollars - poaching from one another whenever they can. Hypothetically speaking, let's say 2008 Market Share of tourist dollars spent was:

    WDW: 75%
    Universal: 18%
    SeaWorld: 7%

    If Potter is a hit (and from what I'm seeing and sensing it will be), 2011 Market Share could be:
    WDW: 70%
    Universal: 24%
    SeaWorld: 6%

    That translates to significant tourist $ going to Universal that, without Potter, would have been spent at Disney, and THAT could spur some exciting developments (beyond FLE and Star Tours). That's what I'm hoping....

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    It would be a fat chance in the depths of hell if IOA ever even got near the immense success of WDW. No doubt that this potter thing will deal a short-time blow to WDW and make Disney add a bit more but its nothing serious.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Disney went into China thinking it could fool the Chinese into accepting a small Disney theme park. Boy were they wrong. I think people might get disappointed (if they aren't die-hard Potter fans) because no sane person would spend the whole day just in that land because its too small and only has one interesting ride. To me, it seems Universal is selling this land as a day's(+) worth attraction.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    I suspect WW will be the talk of the town for the remainder of the year.
    However, It will be the Potter-tard's Mecca for a good two decades.
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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Melonballer View Post
    I know that I have been putting off a return to Disneyworld until the Harry Potter section of IOA is open. I imagine others are doing the same. It will probably bring more people to Orlando and I imagine most will visit both resorts.

    Overall that will help WDW. Also if it makes expand and improve, that would be great.
    I agree. I dont see how Potterland would hurt Disneyworld because the majority of people who go to Orlando are still gonna make it a habit to visit WDW no matter what. I could see it either bringing additional tourists to WDW or keep attendance the same.

    I hope Disney finishes their Fantasyland expansion much earlier than 2014. I was really planning on waiting till that expansion is finished before I go back down there and yes this time around I do plan on swinging by Universal to check out Potterland and the Simpsons ride. Hopefully the Simpsons ride will still be there. I dont wanna visit a new land like Potterland so soon after opening. You never know if they might make alterations or additions to the attractions after a few year test run.

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    Re: How much will 'Wizarding World of Harry Potter' affect WDW?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coheteboy View Post
    I actually don't think WDW will be affected negatively at 'tall. (in my best Hermione Granger impression)

    Think about it for a second. Orlando is a tourist destination, much like Vegas or Southern California. If a family travels far to do one thing, they will probably do their best to see it all.

    In other words, Harry Potter at Universal will convince many to finally make that trip to florida and yes, Walt Disney World being a super star will be on their agenda. So I don't think this will hurt their attendance.
    The hurt for Disney will be the tug families that want to goto USO that may have otherwise bought into Magical Express/OnSite hotel. The bread&butter middle American families that spend just a tad more to stay in those thousands of value rooms on property. Now, when they try to plan USO into their trip, they'll see how it's difficult to do so... and it might lead to more of them skipping the Disney premium and opt'in to stay offsite so it's easier to visit USO.

    OR simply chop a day off their Disney hotel+park tickets to goto USO and stay at a hotel in town.

    Both scenarios which hurt Disney's high profit margin hotel business.

    I think they stand to bleed more dollars this way - way more then they stand to gain from someone who just went to USO and drops by to see Disney. Someone who's primary focus is USO, isn't going to pay to stay on a Disney Property.

    I think the biggest gainers will be the smaller operations in Orlando... the half-day dodge sites. Potter Fans will buy into the USO hotel packages which put them onsite for long stays... more then they need for Universal alone. They'll wander out to other attractions to fill in their trip.

    Disney is not cheap to just 'wander out' to... the whole MYW concept will discourage blending USO and WDW trips. It will make many families 'choose'... and if you are focusing on the audience that Harry Potter will ADD to the region... I think those additions will bypass Disney's more profitable areas and instead opt to fill in their trip with more obtainable sites... like SeaWorld, Aquatica, evening shows in Orlando, etc.
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