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    Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Rehab dates have been announced for BTMRR.

    Jan 9 - May 28

    With it being a 5+ month rehab, lets hope we get all those major effects back in working order!

    5 months I must assume they are doing some ride vehicle upkeep.
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    This is actually great, great news.

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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    That's fine. But don't you dare shut down HM for a few weeks to install haunted mansion holiday.

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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Quote Originally Posted by almandot View Post
    That's fine. But don't you dare shut down HM for a few weeks to install haunted mansion holiday.
    Tangent.. but we know why they don't do it.. they don't need to! They don't need to keep pulling APs back to the park.. so little need to do seasonal overlays.

    But I would like to see the overlay done on odd years or something.. every other year, etc.
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    They should shut down the entire resort and have it refurbed... but BTM needs it alot... that giant hole in the tunnel is as painful to see as the yeti statue just standing there.
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    I hope they add a few Johnny Depp animatronics from the upcoming Lone Ranger flick.
    It bothers me when people selectively edit quotes to support whatever point they are trying to prove.

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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Thank God!! This is great news indeed!

    Quote Originally Posted by almandot View Post
    That's fine. But don't you dare shut down HM for a few weeks to install haunted mansion holiday.
    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    Tangent.. but we know why they don't do it.. they don't need to! They don't need to keep pulling APs back to the park.. so little need to do seasonal overlays.

    But I would like to see the overlay done on odd years or something.. every other year, etc.
    At the recent Trick or Tweet-up, Imagineer Jason Surrell was quoted as saying that DLR has a 70% to 30% AP holder to non-local vacationer ratio whereas WDW is the exact opposite, and that's why WDW doesn't get the overlay. When you take into account all the people that don't get to WDW that often, it's the right call IMHO. I'm at WDW 1-4 times every year, but if I was going once every five years, once every ten years, or once in a lifetime, would I want to see the classic HM that may very well be the best dark ride ever created, or some cheap Tim Burton overlay (not to mention all the people that would miss HM entirely as it has to go down for almost a month before/after the overlay)? I've seen it at DL, and it's a fun overlay, but it can't even begin to compare to the genius of Claude Coats/Marc Davis. And unlike a rehab/refurb which is necessary to keep the attraction running at Disney show quality standards, this is a completely optional change-up (that can't even accurately be said to be "plussing").

    Normally, TDO making excuses about once-in-a-lifetime visitors is just that - an excuse, but in this case it's not about deferred maintenance, it's about a seasonal overlay. And under the circumstances it's the right call.

    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyTimmyTimmy View Post
    They should shut down the entire resort and have if refurbed... but BTM needs it alot... that giant hole in the tunnel is as painful to see as the yeti statue just standing there.
    Amen.
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    Tangent.. but we know why they don't do it.. they don't need to! They don't need to keep pulling APs back to the park.. so little need to do seasonal overlays.

    But I would like to see the overlay done on odd years or something.. every other year, etc.
    Not me. I would prefer a sort of "Holiday world" attraction in itself that changes with the seasons and the holidays.

    The load queue would be all the trees with the holidays and the interior would reflect those holidays....

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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    This is FANTASTIC news!!! One can only hope that they refurb EVERYTHING!!!
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    Rehab dates have been announced for BTMRR.

    Jan 9 - May 28

    With it being a 5+ month rehab, lets hope we get all those major effects back in working order!

    5 months I must assume they are doing some ride vehicle upkeep.
    Glad to hear it's getting some love
    just glad it's in January.
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Maybe we will even get some plussing....the last refurb was more or less a paint job and some minusing.....
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    I've avoided replying cuz I felt bad for derailing the thread but I have something on-topic to ask now. So first.. I think it's worth noting that many many people still come up to the country bear jamboree and ask "So this is the Christmas show version right?" Even WDW's attendance has a much lower ratio of APs, if a ride overlay is popular it's popular regardless of who's riding it. No way to determine how the reaction will be until they try it but they aren't taking the chance and I think they should have. They clearly don't care about doing special things in the park to get people to attend but I'm surprised they didn't try it to see if it helped their pitiful attempt at pushing NBC merchandise in the park =P


    And on-topic =D Paging Big Thunder Mountain-obsessionist Kevin Yee: How long have these effects been down/missing for again? I've gotta wonder.. were they gone so long because they decided a significant downtime was the only way to fix them a long time ago and it's taken them THIS long to get around to it? Or is the ride finally just due for the long maintenance.

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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Good news! That may be why they've let so many little things go, if they knew that they'd have time to fix them during this long refurb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUMark View Post
    At the recent Trick or Tweet-up, Imagineer Jason Surrell was quoted as saying that DLR has a 70% to 30% AP holder to non-local vacationer ratio whereas WDW is the exact opposite, and that's why WDW doesn't get the overlay. When you take into account all the people that don't get to WDW that often, it's the right call IMHO. I'm at WDW 1-4 times every year, but if I was going once every five years, once every ten years, or once in a lifetime, would I want to see the classic HM that may very well be the best dark ride ever created, or some cheap Tim Burton overlay (not to mention all the people that would miss HM entirely as it has to go down for almost a month before/after the overlay)? I've seen it at DL, and it's a fun overlay, but it can't even begin to compare to the genius of Claude Coats/Marc Davis. And unlike a rehab/refurb which is necessary to keep the attraction running at Disney show quality standards, this is a completely optional change-up (that can't even accurately be said to be "plussing").

    Normally, TDO making excuses about once-in-a-lifetime visitors is just that - an excuse, but in this case it's not about deferred maintenance, it's about a seasonal overlay. And under the circumstances it's the right call.
    Jason has nothing to do with Haunted Mansion Holiday, and he has very little idea of AP make-up between WDW and DL. Although his percentages may be correct, when you look at the actual numbers of DL and WDW APs, they're about the same. WDW just has more visitors in general, hence why the percentages are so different from DL's. Jason is a great writer and story-teller, but he could sell snake-oil to a snake. The real reason WDW doesn't have Nightmare's Overlay is because Phil Holmes didn't want it, and sent it to Tokyo. Phil doesn't particularly care for NBC, nor does he want to deal with the downtime associated with the changeovers twice a year.
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    Re: Big Thunder Mountain long-term rehab announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    ...when you look at the actual numbers of DL and WDW APs, they're about the same...
    I have no inside information, but from what I've read over the years I'm having a really hard time believing this. DL has something like 900,000 AP holders. I can't see WDW having anywhere near that number.

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