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    Journey of the Little Mermaid

    First off does anyone have any clue when the attraction will open? Last I heard was late 2012... I can't see WDW opening Mermaid in Dec, but maybe Nov? Is there also a good chance they may push the opening to 2013?

    Second question, any chance WDWs version will be longer than DCAs? I heard it will be identical with the exception of the queue. Many have said DCAs version is to short.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Having recently seen DCA's, I agree that it's a little short and fairly underwhelming for how much it was hyped up. It's a solid D ticket dark ride in the spirit of the other Fantasyland dark rides, and it has some really impressive AAs, but it's nowhere near the "E-ticket comparable to Haunted Mansion" dark ride that Disney hyped it up to be.

    I would say it's somewhere between incredibly unlikely and impossible that WDW's TLM will be expanded (beyond the queue). A big part of the motivation for developing identical attractions in tandem is that they're well, identical, and a lot of the cost savings is lost if you deviate from that. Also, if either resort were going to be willing to pay for a longer, more expensive version of TLM, it'd most likely be TDA and not TDO.

    No one outside of TWDC really knows the timetable for the FLE. FWIW, the latest WDW Annual Passholder newsletter made it sound as though only the Dumbo's Circus area would be opening in 2012. We'll see what happens...
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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    the ride itself is going to be identical as far as we know. it was mentioned that lasseter insisted on slowing down DCA's ride speed, and so it remained to be seen if Magic Kingdom would do the same, as that would impact how "long" the ride is timewise.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by DFL86 View Post
    First off does anyone have any clue when the attraction will open? Last I heard was late 2012... I can't see WDW opening Mermaid in Dec, but maybe Nov? Is there also a good chance they may push the opening to 2013?

    Second question, any chance WDWs version will be longer than DCAs? I heard it will be identical with the exception of the queue. Many have said DCAs version is to short.
    I heard it was still slated for mid-late summer 2012.

    Other than the facade and loading area, the ride is a 100% clone of DCAs. WDW's omimover system may move faster than DCA's to be able to fit more guests in making WDW's an even shorter experience than DCAs.


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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    I would have to agree that the attraction is a little underwhelming... minor disappointment. A solid D ticket instead of the E ticket they were hoping for. STILL, it's a delightful attraction with fun sets and visuals. Almost no conflict, and an abrupt ending made me say "ummm... what?"

    Maybe it's because it sticks to an established story, where as the Haunted Mansion is a loose story that all of us can use our imagination to create our own story. The Haunted Mansion Movie doesn't exist in my mind... definitely not canon if you ask me!

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but a couple of searches didn't turn up anything...

    Does anyone know why the two otherwise identical Little Mermaid attractions are going to have different names? It's "The Little Mermaid - Ariel's Undersea Adventure" at DCA, but it'll be called "Under the Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid" in the Magic Kingdom. I can understand having different facades and exterior decoration to better fit each attraction's physical context, but the difference in name just seems pointless -- especially as the names are ultimately pretty similar anyway.

    I can't imagine some Imagineer thought, for example, that West Coast visitors are less likely to understand what the attraction is about unless the words "The Little Mermaid" actually appear in the first part of the ride's name, whereas East Coast visitors would be drawn to the attraction even with the marginally less recognizable phrase "Under the Sea" leading off that ride's name.

    For that matter, I'm not sure I get the reason for the apparent trend of attractions getting lengthy, subtitled names (e.g., Expedition Everest - Legend of the Forbidden Mountain) -- 99% of guests are just going to use a shorthand convention to refer to an attraction anyway. I suspect, for example, that the vast majority of guests refer to the Little Mermaid ride simply as "the Little Mermaid" or "the Little Mermaid ride" -- rendering superfluous all the additional verbiage in the rides' official names.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Expedition Everest - Legend of the Forbidden Mountain at least has a history behind it because the attraction was supposed to be just Forbidden Mountain until rather late in the game.

    Likely the reasoning is marketing. Toy Story Mania! and Toy Story Midway Mania! being the marketing name and attraction name respectively. Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters is not much different to Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin. Astro Orbitor (a fake word) compared to Astro Orbiter. Abroad its just Big Thunder Mountain but in the States it is Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. All of the carrousels have different names and Disney's California Adventure even has a carousel. There are lots of naming differences even between the US parks.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuhio View Post
    Does anyone know why the two otherwise identical Little Mermaid attractions are going to have different names? It's "The Little Mermaid - Ariel's Undersea Adventure" at DCA, but it'll be called "Under the Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid" in the Magic Kingdom.

    I can't imagine some Imagineer thought, for example, that West Coast visitors are less likely to understand what the attraction is about unless the words "The Little Mermaid" actually appear in the first part of the ride's name, whereas East Coast visitors would be drawn to the attraction even with the marginally less recognizable phrase "Under the See" leading off that ride's name.
    I can imagine why different names came up, just look at Midway Mania vs Toy Story Mania. The marketing won out though Midway Mania sticks around a little.

    I think DCA's title fits better with the traditional dark-ride naming scheme. Peter Pan's Flight, Snow White's Scary Adventures, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, Roger Rabbit's, etc...

    But if I had to guess, on a bit of a tangent but it's possible.. The attraction that used to be there was "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" and so they wanted the name to be "Under the Sea"

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuhio View Post
    Does anyone know why the two otherwise identical Little Mermaid attractions are going to have different names? It's "The Little Mermaid - Ariel's Undersea Adventure" at DCA, but it'll be called "Under the Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid" in the Magic Kingdom. I can understand having different facades and exterior decoration to better fit each attraction's physical context, but the difference in name just seems pointless -- especially as the names are ultimately pretty similar anyway.
    It's probably to reduce any confusion with Voyage of The Little Mermaid, the show at Disney's Hollywood Studios.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by Santana View Post
    It's probably to reduce any confusion with Voyage of The Little Mermaid, the show at Disney's Hollywood Studios.
    Reduce confusion?
    Pretty sure Journey of the Little Mermaid and Voyage of the Little Mermaid are extremely similar.

    That being said, I expect them to remove Voyage once Journey is finished.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

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    Reduce confusion?
    Pretty sure Journey of the Little Mermaid and Voyage of the Little Mermaid are extremely similar.

    That being said, I expect them to remove Voyage once Journey is finished.
    How are they extremely similar? One's a stage show and one's a dark ride... That's like saying The Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular and The Indiana Jones Adventure "are extremely similar."
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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by PSUMark View Post
    How are they extremely similar? One's a stage show and one's a dark ride... That's like saying The Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular and The Indiana Jones Adventure "are extremely similar."
    I think he meant name wise only and not referring to the actual attraction itself

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by PSUMark View Post
    How are they extremely similar? One's a stage show and one's a dark ride... That's like saying The Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular and The Indiana Jones Adventure "are extremely similar."
    I think mess98 is referring to the names of both attractions being similar. And even then while one is a stage show and the other is a ride, both attractions are very song-based and fast forwarded through much of the plot. I wouldn't care either way if "Voyage" (the stage show) went or stayed. I prefer the ride much much more.
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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by PSUMark View Post
    How are they extremely similar? One's a stage show and one's a dark ride... That's like saying The Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular and The Indiana Jones Adventure "are extremely similar."
    I was talking about the names. A casual visitor would probably get those confused as well.

    Heck, there are enough people that call WDW "Disneyland"... so go figure.

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    Re: Journey of the Little Mermaid

    Quote Originally Posted by mess98 View Post
    I was talking about the names. A casual visitor would probably get those confused as well.

    Heck, there are enough people that call WDW "Disneyland"... so go figure.
    Ah, good point. Well I feel stupid

    Apologies for not understanding your original post better. My fault.
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