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    OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    So just imagine that the Happiest Celebration on Earth was really a worldwide event, happening at not just the Walt Disney World Resort, but the Disneyland Resort Paris, the Tokyo Disney Resort and the Hong Kong Disneyland Resort...

    I think if we are going to do this remotely realistically, we have to accept that WDWR will still be center of the celebration. It is Disney's biggest money maker and so why wouldn't you spend your money on advertising there? But what if the other parks got some new cool stuff also... Not including the Disneyland Resort, officially the Happiest Homecoming on Earth and the Happiest Celebration on Earth are two different things. The HHOE celebrates 50 years of Disneyland, the HCOE celebrates 50 years of Disney theme parks.

    Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't cool things already gone on at the other parks during the HCOE? Yes, many haven't exactly been acknowledged as HCOE-doings... but still. Anyway, here is what I can think of;

    Tokyo Disney Resort
    Well, I'm not really surprised with the TDR. I mean, they are not owned by Disney, the only things they rely on Disney for are licenses and Imagineers (I say that loosely, I mean I know Disney sometimes trains staff 'n' all but you know what I mean). Why should OLC give a monkeys for something happening across the ocean? Why would more Japanese people visit TDR because an American theme park is 50 years old?

    Tokyo Disneyland
    A new plaque (well not even that) at 'Partners'

    Tokyo DisneySea
    Raging Spirits

    Disneyland Resort Paris
    Now, this is where it gets fun. Space Mountain 2 and Wishes were officially part of the HCOE line-up, but the HCOE was not acknowledged in name in Paris - it was accepted that SM2 and Wishes opened to celebrate 50 years of Disney theme parks, occasionally mentioning Disneyland... But no HCOE merchandise etc. Again, why would French people give a monkeys?

    Disneyland Park
    Wishes
    Space Mountain: Mission Two

    Walt Disney Studios Park
    Toon Studios and TOT announced - but TOT was also announced at TDS.

    Hong Kong Disneyland Resort
    Okay, an entire resort opened because of Disneyland's 50th birthday (so they say) - what more do Disney need to do? Is it really appropriate for a full-scale celebration just ask the park opens for practically nothing to do with the park? People come to HKDL for HKDL, not Disneyland's 50th.

    So, yes, WDWR basically is the HCOE. But I hope what I have listed opens your eyes slightly to why it isn't as easy as it sounds to implement the HCOE at other parks. At least most Americans visiting WDWR have heard of Disneyland at one point in their lives.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    That is what I've been saying the whole time (in the WDW is jealous of DL thread). But when I say it, all I get is "all you are doing is reiterating Disney marketing." The HCoE is indeed a global celebration celebrating 50 years of Disney theme parks.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    yeah it just so happened that WDW, having 4 theme parks, got 4 big things. And the thing is, the HCOE is largely an american thing hence, it's more acknowledged here than in the other international parks. WDW isn't jealous of DL, it just so happens that it deserves to marketed more since it makes more money.

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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    Plus, DLPR & TDLR aren't run by Disney.
    Last edited by TheDisneyInquisitor; 01-16-2006 at 04:11 PM.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    I'm sorry, I believe Disneyland Resort is in fact run by Disney... lol

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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    technically DLPR is disney-owned Tokyo is the only non-disney run disney resort

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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill
    I'm sorry, I believe Disneyland Resort is in fact run by Disney... lol
    I have no idea what you are talking about.

    technically DLPR is disney-owned Tokyo is the only non-disney run disney resort
    Disney may own part of it, but they don't run it like they do DLR & WDWR.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    Quote Originally Posted by askmike1
    I have no idea what you are talking about.


    Disney may own part of it, but they don't run it like they do DLR & WDWR.
    But, wasn't Jay Rasulo its president? I was under the impression that Disney didn't own all of DLRP, but that they run it. I figured that was why WDSP had about 3 attractions...and why they forced the resort to debut that inferior Wishes for the 50th while TDLR was having nothing to do with the celebration that no one in Japan really cares about. Heck, people on the East Coast don't even understand the 50th--I would not expect anyone over seas to care about it.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    This article should explain how DLPR runs. In short, Euro Disney SCA runs DLPR. Disney is Euro Disney SCA's biggest shareholder (a Saudi prince & the French government also own shares).
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    oh ok, thanks for the info!

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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    My concern about making this a world wide celebration is it eclipses WDW's 35 anniversary. It will end before Epcot has its 25th anniversary, but I think it would have been better to do a 35/25 celebration for WDW. It could have been much more fun for loyal WDW fans.

    As to it being a world wide celebration, let us be honest, it was a marketing concept to increase attendance at all parks and not just Disneyland. I am not sure it succeed that well. WDW did see a boost, but not as great as Disneyland. Also, with just advertising new rides, WDW would have had a boost anyway. I am not sure that it is the Celebration that is boosting things more than the individual rides, Sourin' and Car Stunt Show.

    EE will have more of a boost to WDW's attendance than this Happiest Celebration idea.. I just like that a WDW centric celebration of the new rides would have been just as good or even better.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    Wow. Another thread hijacked by the same topic. Come on guys, you have your own thread.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    Quote Originally Posted by askmike1
    Disney may own part of it, but they don't run it like they do DLR & WDWR.
    Thank god for that! THAT is why Disneyland Park (Paris) kicks the Magic Kingdom's ***.
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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedway
    Thank god for that! THAT is why Disneyland Park (Paris) kicks the Magic Kingdom's ***.
    And yet DLP is in huge financial problems. The Walt Disney Studios Paris (a park just barely larger than DCA) has yet to get 3 million people (in one year) to enter its gates. Although I'm sure DLP is beautiful, I am more than glad that Euro Disney SCA isn't running WDW.

    But I digress.

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    Re: OK then... so what if the HCOE truly was a 'worldwide' celebration?

    For the sake of this, it's safe to say Disney owns all the Disney Resorts except Tokyo Disney Resort. CMs have a maingate that allows them everywhere except Tokyo... Disney owns enough of Euro Disney SCA to say they own Disneyland Resort Paris.

    Also... mike, it's DLRP... not DLPR. Even though you tried to get by with it this time, you sill failed. WU HA HA HA HA. Tricky edit.

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