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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by mikelieman View Post
    There is nothing funny about non-union labor ignoring the local electrical code and regulation, wiring up a fixture underwater improperly and killing a child.

    NOTHING.

    Safety. First. Last. ALWAYS. And there is a direct connection between the use of non-union labor and this tragedy.

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    For those just joining, this is about Ashton Jojo, 11, was who was killed in June when she stepped into a 2-foot-deep pond with an improperly wired pump. This topic was raised parenthetically to the discussion at hand, and I felt it needed some clarification.
    are all professionals in Florida union? No. Does the union train electricians? No. Stop using tragedies to spout personal agendas. And yeah this will get deleted but I don't care.

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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    I guess you don't think that WDW's affiliation with IBEW Local 606 has anything to do with their safety record in this regard?

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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    I think you may be confusing licensed electrician with the union... Now can we get back on topic?
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Unfortunately I have some bad news to report. The boy has died. Here's the story from the Orlando Sentinel
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by Coasterjunkie View Post
    Unfortunately I have some bad news to report. The boy has died. Here's the story from the Orlando Sentinel
    Oh no.....

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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Should the pools be kept open "at your own risk" after a certain time? Or should Disney provide lifeguards at all times that guests may access their swimming pools?

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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    I think the pools should just be closed at a certain time, where no one can go swimming after the lifeguards leave
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Some comments here are cold and those that made them should get a one year ban... atleast. But Im not the boss.

    A boy died.

    To prevent this they should have more guards at the pool areas. A 13 year should not have to go to the pool with his parents. It should be safe for a teen to be alone in the pool.
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyTimmyTimmy View Post
    Some comments here are cold and those that made them should get a one year ban... atleast. But Im not the boss.

    A boy died.

    To prevent this they should have more guards at the pool areas. A 13 year should not have to go to the pool with his parents. It should be safe for a teen to be alone in the pool.
    The thing is, according to the article, this happened after the lifeguards left. So having more lifeguards wouldn't have done anything
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by joanna71985 View Post
    The thing is, according to the article, this happened after the lifeguards left. So having more lifeguards wouldn't have done anything
    They should have closed the pool off and have a guard walking there atleast for a while. It could be worth it...
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    I'm sort of surprised that the pools aren't supervised 24x7.

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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by mikelieman View Post
    I'm sort of surprised that the pools aren't supervised 24x7.
    I don't know how affective a lifeguard working at 3 AM would be, considering it's a job built on alertness and attention.

    Disney should probably close the pools after a certain time. However, this isn't Disney's fault per se, and this could have happened anywhere. In any case, our thoughts and prayers should go out to the poor boy's family.

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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerDurden View Post
    I don't know how affective a lifeguard working at 3 AM would be, considering it's a job built on alertness and attention.
    That's why they call it the graveyard, or overnight shift. And I don't mean that in any reference to someone dieing, because that is what the shift is called with that time frame of hours. But people who are used to working those hours have their body & mind trained to work those hours. Some people prefer to work those type of hours. I have worked around many people who consider themselves "night owls."
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    As far as I know, the pools do have hours. It wouldn't surprise me to see all the pools being gated soon. I wouldn't blame them if they decide to do it.
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    Re: Boy Critical After Near-Drowning At Disney Resort

    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyTimmyTimmy View Post
    They should have closed the pool off and have a guard walking there atleast for a while. It could be worth it...
    From what I've seen, many of the pools have a "swim-at-your-own-risk" after the official pool hours (which is what happened here). I'm torn on the matter- I think it would be best to gate all the pools and close them after the lifeguards leave. However, I also enjoy swimming at night
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