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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Disney hotels are beautifully themed but, upon closer inspection, are NOT high quality rooms. If you have had the experience of staying in many hotels around the world, this is not difficult to see. I like the hotels because they are novel, but in my opinion, they are lower quality rooms at upscale prices. Period.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    The WDW hotels are for those who want to feel like they are getting the "whole" Disney experience. For me, if im staying in Orlando just for a vacation, im staying on property. Everything I want and need to relax and make myself feel like im rewarding myself, are right there. But.....

    If im only there for business or just passing through and am going to hit a park for a day, I stay off property.

    You cant compare Vegas rooms to those in WDW . Totally different types of clients.

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    Agree! Not only Orlando Sentinel's prices hiked but other Disney Hotels are also sailing in the same boat. I don't know why only business and government people respond to the dearness but those who are affected they are highly ignored.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by traumwelt View Post
    i like the hotels because they are novel, but in my opinion, they are lower quality rooms at upscale prices. Period.
    exactly.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

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    Yeah the prices are ridiculous for the room your getting, I mean for 140$ a night in off period I got a spa suite at the Monte Carlo a swankier Hotel in Vegas..

    True that doesn't add the cost to and from airport(like 40$ total) but all transit was free and I ended up spending WAY less than I would have on a Disney Vaca comparing 3 days to 3 days....

    I do agree that for the money they need to up the ante a bit and refurnish some of the rooms, or at least modernize the furnishings a bit....so that the deluxe and moderates feel like what your paying for...
    I don't know if it's ever a good idea to compare the prices of Vegas hotels to other hotels...just because Vegas hotels are super cheap so that people will come and spend a lot of money gambling. Normal hotels don't have casinos and are never, ever as cheap as a hotel with a casino.

    So, you're comparing apples with oranges.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    I believe that Vegas has a huge glut of unoccupied hotel rooms compared to what WDW has. The hoteliers in Vegas might be lowering their rates and plussing their rooms in an attempt to draw people to stay the night, so they can spend more money in their casinos.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by redrhino54 View Post
    The WDW hotels are for those who want to feel like they are getting the "whole" Disney experience. For me, if im staying in Orlando just for a vacation, im staying on property. Everything I want and need to relax and make myself feel like im rewarding myself, are right there. But.....

    If im only there for business or just passing through and am going to hit a park for a day, I stay off property.

    You cant compare Vegas rooms to those in WDW . Totally different types of clients.
    I agree with this 1000%.

    We usually stay on-property but one year I went down to WDW with some friends from college for a girls' weekend mini-reunion. I did not make the plans, so I did not pick where we stayed. It was at the DoubleTree near Sea World. The place was nice and my friend got some kind of a deal, so each room was about $70 less than a moderate Disney resort. We had a rental car too.

    I don't think we ended up saving all that much money though, especially factoring in the rental car. I think it was more hassle than just staying on Disney property. For instance, one of us always had to be a designated driver...when if we were staying with Disney we would not have had to drive anywhere and we could have had a little more fun. We also left earlier from the parks than I would have wanted just because we had to drive all the way back to the DoubleTree.

    It was still a nice vacation...but for not much more money we could have had a better time just staying with Disney.

    If I had one wish, I'd wish that Disney would build a really, really nice hotel on property...one with really fantastic rooms and great linens and really first-rate decor. It could be a boutique hotel, meant mainly for adults. I think the market is there for that. Imagine a Ritz-Carlton but Disney-branded...maybe have it be Cinderella's Chateau and have it be Cinderella-French themed and have it be the house she lived in before she moved into Cinderella's Castle.

    I think a super-high-end place like that could be a nice offering. Not for every trip, but for special ones.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BradyNBradleysMom View Post
    I don't know if it's ever a good idea to compare the prices of Vegas hotels to other hotels...just because Vegas hotels are super cheap so that people will come and spend a lot of money gambling. Normal hotels don't have casinos and are never, ever as cheap as a hotel with a casino.

    So, you're comparing apples with oranges.
    I know you weren't quoting me in this post, but I was another poster using Las Vegas hotels as a comparison and to me its a bigger issue of quality and value. The value you get at Disney hotel in terms of the quality of the room for the price you pay is excepptionally poor. Even throwing out the deals you can get on Vegas hotel rooms, when you pay a regular full price rate at a nicer hotel (and I don't consider the Monte Carlo a swanky hotel at all as the post you quoted does) you're not only paying less than moderate or deluxe hotel at Disney, you're getting a much more spacious and far, far superior quality room. Not to mention that the amenities, shopping, dining and other offerings of said Vegas hotel will exceed what the counter Disney hotel has to offer.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    The obvious soultion is not to pay for a poor quality room with a high price. But if you continue to pay high prices for things you admit are poor quality, you really only have yourself to blame.

    Disney is a business and follows the money. They have no incentive to improve if you continue to purchase their expensive, poor-quality product. And by continuing to purchase it, you show that you are actually okay with it, and are just whining about it.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    ^ Well said.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by second blue teacup View Post
    The obvious soultion is not to pay for a poor quality room with a high price. But if you continue to pay high prices for things you admit are poor quality, you really only have yourself to blame.

    Disney is a business and follows the money. They have no incentive to improve if you continue to purchase their expensive, poor-quality product. And by continuing to purchase it, you show that you are actually okay with it, and are just whining about it.
    Hence why I DON'T pay for a high price for a poor quality room. I stay with my cousin who lives in Lake Buena Vista and who has a roommate who works for Disney and gets us into the parks for free. That's called Divine Intervention, lol.

    And despite your logical business argument, I hold that a company can continue to be highly profitable and improve the quality of its offerings. And for the record, I'm not whining. I'm doing what EVERYONE on MiceChat does and is here for: to voice my opinion and in this case a critique of an aspect of Disney.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by BradyNBradleysMom View Post
    I don't know if it's ever a good idea to compare the prices of Vegas hotels to other hotels...just because Vegas hotels are super cheap so that people will come and spend a lot of money gambling. Normal hotels don't have casinos and are never, ever as cheap as a hotel with a casino.

    So, you're comparing apples with oranges.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coasterjunkie View Post
    I believe that Vegas has a huge glut of unoccupied hotel rooms compared to what WDW has. The hoteliers in Vegas might be lowering their rates and plussing their rooms in an attempt to draw people to stay the night, so they can spend more money in their casinos.
    That's true, the price of the Hotel room in Vegas is subsidized by the Casino, but if looking at it that way I guess you could say that Disney wants you to spend all your money on their restaurants, merchandise, and park tickets. I am figuring that it costs MORE to run all that and the transit than it costs to run a casino, but I think that that's similar enough to draw a comparison...

    And a nicer hotel in London, UK is about 2900 USD a solid 7 days for a LUXURY hotel so for the regular/normal hotel comparison, and for a stateside representation the W in New Orleans(which I frequent) is 1800 USD(those prices are for regular rooms)..that's about equivalent to a week at the Boardwalk.

    Quote Originally Posted by second blue teacup View Post
    The obvious soultion is not to pay for a poor quality room with a high price. But if you continue to pay high prices for things you admit are poor quality, you really only have yourself to blame.

    Disney is a business and follows the money. They have no incentive to improve if you continue to purchase their expensive, poor-quality product. And by continuing to purchase it, you show that you are actually okay with it, and are just whining about it.
    The thing is I pay for it because I believe that the novelty and the money saved from Transportation makes it a better value and therefore worthwhile...

    However, I do feel that for the price that they charge on some of these rooms they could EASILY make the room have more of a WOW factor...I mean it does have a WOW of a view and the little touches are nice, but I do like an overly comfortable room to relax in after a long day out having fun...

    Once again not saying I don't believe it's not worth it, IF I did I wouldn't stay there I'd take my business elsewhere, because your saving about 50$ a day in car rental alone, but I do believe that the rooms could be alittle nicer..it wouldn't even take much just slightly more comfortable furniture and it really bring it in line with the price at other Premium brand hotels, which I believe Disney is at price wise...

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by second blue teacup View Post
    The obvious soultion is not to pay for a poor quality room with a high price. But if you continue to pay high prices for things you admit are poor quality, you really only have yourself to blame.

    Disney is a business and follows the money. They have no incentive to improve if you continue to purchase their expensive, poor-quality product. And by continuing to purchase it, you show that you are actually okay with it, and are just whining about it.
    I've stayed in Ritz-Carlton and Four Seasons hotels and felt that the extravagance of staying there was worth it because those were once-in-a-lifetime trips for me (back when I did not have kids). I loved the plushness of the carpets, the beautiful furniture in the rooms, and all the golden touches that made those hotels so gorgeous. We're talking choosing to stay at a Ritz for $280 a night instead of picking a Holiday Inn for $89. On the vacations where I treated myself to the Ritz, I loved every second of staying in those hotels...but thinking back on them I really spent much more time in the hotels than I would in Orlando. I stayed at a Ritz resort in Hawaii and spent the whole trip just there at the resort and the Four Seasons was in Philly in the winter. Neither time did I go out much, so the hotel was a "home" for me that was so much nicer than my home.

    When I travel for business, my company restricts where I can stay according to budget. We have an office manager who books the rooms and I don't get any stay. It's usually a Residence Inn or a Courtyard. They are nice, but nothing to get excited about. Though I do like the fridge and grocery service at the Residence Inn.

    When I go to WDW and stay in a hotel my expectations are not for it to be Ritz or Four Seasons levels. That is a "Grade-A" expensive trip, like to Hawaii or Tahiti or something I will only experience a few times in life.

    The Disney trips are more like the Residence Inn stays. They get the job done and have some things I like, but by no means do I feel in the lap of luxury. However, WDW was not built to be a luxurious destination...it was meant as a family vacation resort, which it is.

    I actually think Disney is leaving money on the table though, by not having a hotel at Ritz or Four Seasons level on property. And no, I don't think Grand Floridian comes close to that standard. I would love to do a really plush and extravagant Disney trip with my husband even if it's just once for us. But Disney doesn't give that option.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by second blue teacup View Post
    Disney is a business and follows the money. They have no incentive to improve if you continue to purchase their expensive, poor-quality product. And by continuing to purchase it, you show that you are actually okay with it, and are just whining about it.
    That is biggest problem of two party. One party is tolerating other because they have no other option and another party is just sucking the blood (money) of people. Is there any equilibrium point where both party can get benefit to each other.

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