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    Question Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    I found this brief in the Orlando Sentinel yesterday:
    Prices up at Disney hotels
    Hotel-room rates are spiking at Walt Disney World, according to UBS Securities LLC.
    Although Disney has been steadily boosting prices at its hotels for some time now, the pace is accelerating, UBS analysts said in a research note last week. The firm says it thinks prices in all three of Disney's hotel categories value, moderate and deluxe are up by double-digit percentages over the past four weeks.


    Is this to compensate for "free" dining, perhaps?



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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by rtreynor View Post
    I found this brief in the Orlando Sentinel yesterday:
    Prices up at Disney hotels
    Hotel-room rates are spiking at Walt Disney World, according to UBS Securities LLC.
    Although Disney has been steadily boosting prices at its hotels for some time now, the pace is accelerating, UBS analysts said in a research note last week. The firm says it thinks prices in all three of Disney's hotel categories value, moderate and deluxe are up by double-digit percentages over the past four weeks.


    Is this to compensate for "free" dining, perhaps?


    I thought that Disney published their rates for a particular calendar year each December of the preceding year. But, like the airline industry, it seems that they're now engaging in some sort of new yield management or "dynamic pricing" strategy and charging as much as they can get away with per night. Again, Disney is a business, I get it but geez all this thought and analysis on squeezing absolutely every penny out of the consumer's wallet. Honestly, it's worse than Las Vegas down there in Orlando these days. I guess the perception of endless price increases are actually true.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Maybe they are trying to cover what obamacare is going to cost them in Oct......

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    With such a choppy little blurb the Sentinel didn't do any service in publishing that point.

    It doesn't say how the information was collected. A spike in financial terms means a sudden rise and fall. UBS would know that.

    Maybe they found something comparing a summer price to fall price.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Damn man, prices at WDW hotels are already outta control.
    I mean they're seriously RIDICULOUS, especially when you consider what you're getting for a room a room for all that money. DisneyTom mentioned Las Vegas... in Vegas you can get very good deals on rooms even at swanky hotels. And those places have large, spacious rooms with new, pillow-top beds and top of the line furnishings, etc. I often wish that Disney, especially would take a page from Vegas hotels. I mean seriously, go on their website and look at the rooms at the Gran Floridian. You pay a grand a night and the rooms aren't anything special at all. INSANE. The hotel resort as a whole is gorgeous and lovely, but the rooms should be lavish and elegant and spacious to justify paying over $1000/night.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Yeah the prices are ridiculous for the room your getting, I mean for 140$ a night in off period I got a spa suite at the Monte Carlo a swankier Hotel in Vegas..

    True that doesn't add the cost to and from airport(like 40$ total) but all transit was free and I ended up spending WAY less than I would have on a Disney Vaca comparing 3 days to 3 days....

    I do agree that for the money they need to up the ante a bit and refurnish some of the rooms, or at least modernize the furnishings a bit....so that the deluxe and moderates feel like what your paying for...
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Yet another argument to stay OFF PROPERTY, especially if you're only going to be in the room to sleep.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Back in the 90's, my mother was a principal at a high school in Orange County and the graduating class that year gave our family a weekend trip to WDW as she was retiring that year. We also got a upgrade to stay at the Wilderness Lodge. Even then, the rooms seemed to be the standard hotel room type, two beds with night stands, a chest of drawers with a TV on top, a small closet, and a standard shower and vanity area. Granted, the hotel itself was nice and the pool area was as well. But I'm not there to enjoy the hotel, I'm there to enjoy the parks. I only enjoy the hotel when I'm dragging my tired but back to the hotel to SLEEP.

    I can't see spending an exorbitant amount of money for a hotel I'm only going to use at night when I'm asleep. I tend to stay off site when I go to out of state (Florida) parks that have onsite hotels because it usually is cheaper and the rooms are just about the same.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo Mouse View Post
    Damn man, prices at WDW hotels are already outta control.
    I mean they're seriously RIDICULOUS, especially when you consider what you're getting for a room a room for all that money. DisneyTom mentioned Las Vegas... in Vegas you can get very good deals on rooms even at swanky hotels. And those places have large, spacious rooms with new, pillow-top beds and top of the line furnishings, etc. I often wish that Disney, especially would take a page from Vegas hotels. I mean seriously, go on their website and look at the rooms at the Gran Floridian. You pay a grand a night and the rooms aren't anything special at all. INSANE. The hotel resort as a whole is gorgeous and lovely, but the rooms should be lavish and elegant and spacious to justify paying over $1000/night.
    Yeah but in Vegas they over supplied the demand. Rates are pretty much unchanged there over the last decade. So many new hotels are very posh and they get the high rates, while the once posh old hotels have the same rates that used to be high. This has kept rates from climbing everywhere. Like how Art of Animation has more expensive rooms.

    This is part of the reason some of the older hotels have remodeled hotel rooms instead of just refurbishing them. That lets them charge higher for some rooms createding more revenue. A lot like redone rooms at Port Orleans Riverside.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    You can't compare Disney hotels to Las Vegas hotels. The majority of Las Vegas hotels are attached to casinos. They price their hotel rooms lower to draw you in so that you use their casino. That's where they make all the money.





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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by dsnyfn View Post
    You can't compare Disney hotels to Las Vegas hotels. The majority of Las Vegas hotels are attached to casinos. They price their hotel rooms lower to draw you in so that you use their casino. That's where they make all the money.
    Yeah but what I'm also saying is that if you take a room at a "high end" Disney hotel and compare it to a room at a "high end" Vegas hotel, the Vegas rooms are soooo much better in quality, size, comfort, etc.

    All I'm saying is I wish Disney hotels take more care in the quality of their rooms: the beds, furniture, fixtures, etc. I understand that most of the hotels were built in the 70s and 80s when they just didn't make rooms with the spaciousness they do now with hotels built in the last 15 years, but at least try to make up for it with QUALITY. And I don't buy the argument about refurbished rooms. The quality is better than the cheap predecessors but still weak.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo Mouse View Post
    Yeah but what I'm also saying is that if you take a room at a "high end" Disney hotel and compare it to a room at a "high end" Vegas hotel, the Vegas rooms are soooo much better in quality, size, comfort, etc.

    All I'm saying is I wish Disney hotels take more care in the quality of their rooms: the beds, furniture, fixtures, etc. I understand that most of the hotels were built in the 70s and 80s when they just didn't make rooms with the spaciousness they do now with hotels built in the last 15 years, but at least try to make up for it with QUALITY. And I don't buy the argument about refurbished rooms. The quality is better than the cheap predecessors but still weak.
    Many people know the story of the modular construction of the Contemporary.

    A lot especially in the 80's when Vegas started building the mega resorts were done in the same way. Suites like at the Rio are basically double wide, two rooms in one.

    With the Bellagio that trend was broken.

    In vegas they really try to fill the nice hotels with delux furnishings, tile floors, pillowy beds and nice drapery. In Disney they take a more novel approach and put Hidden Mickey's in to give it the Disney touch, rather than high thread counts.
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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    Quote Originally Posted by swampymarsh View Post
    In vegas they really try to fill the nice hotels with delux furnishings, tile floors, pillowy beds and nice drapery. In Disney they take a more novel approach and put Hidden Mickey's in to give it the Disney touch, rather than high thread counts.
    EXACTLY. And as much as I like the "little things" here and there (and I very much do), it doesn't mask or make up for the lack of actual comfort and quality that is missing from Disney hotels, DLR or WDW.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    We've pretty much always stayed at a Disney hotel in recent years if we're staying over (my folks live in the Tampa area, so if we're visiting them it's sometimes a day trip) - but we only go when there's a huge discount, we can buy DVC points from a member, or the Dolphin/Swan has a great promotion (if you consider them Disney). I couldn't imagine paying full price for a Disney hotel room - at that point, the benefits really don't outweigh the costs.

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    Re: Big price hike on hotel rooms?

    I can't speak for the deluxe resorts at Disney, but I just stayed at a moderate resort. I found the "quality" of the room to be much nicer than an off-site hotel I stayed at in the same price range during the same trip.

    As stated in my previous post, Vegas hotels are trying to get you into their hotel so you use their casinos. They do that by plusing their rooms and offering discounted rates. The main goal again is to get you into their hotel so you use their casino.

    Disney does not need to that. People are going to stay at a Disney hotel because it is on-site and is Disney. The only way we will ever see Disney offer promotions and "plus" their rooms is if occupancy drops and they need to come up with other ways to bring people. It is simple business.





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