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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    Quote Originally Posted by DoppelV View Post
    I agree, I really like the GMR also, but I think Disney should start considering thier options for when they finally come to their senses and discontinue association with MGM. MGM is building a park in Korea now, and they are associated with casinos and glitz and adult entertainment, and I'm not sure that's a name that Disney should remain associated with. Disney has a very diverse film catalog that they can use to make an excellent ride. What they need now are rides that would evenly compete with those at other theme parks. Basically, GMR, needs to become the headliner attraction at the Disney Studios. Its a relationship that often happens at IOA. Even though Hulk and DD are the faster, bigger, thrill attractions, Spidey always seems to win public opinion.

    Also, and I know folks are going to disagree with me here. Disney needs to find ways of making sure each experience on an attraction is the best possible. Sometimes that means getting rid of human performers. I for one am sick to death of having bad experiences on human performance attractions. Granted, it is very necessary for some attractions, especially Jungle Cruise and the like, but even there, a bad performance can kill a great ride. I'm not apologetic for my fellow cast members in this sense. I don't care if you're tired, angry at someone or something, or what, your job is to give 100% performance. I know there are cast members out there that feel the same way. The way I like to think about it is this. What if on board your tram there's a make-a-wish child, and this ride may possibly be their last, shouldn't it be your job to make sure that its the best ride they've ever had?

    Also, GMR comes off so scripted, even when the acting is good. I don't think Disney should waste the opportunity they have with that building. We, as a public, need to see something new and exciting. This doesn't mean a thrill ride, but it needs to be something worth waiting two hours to ride.
    OK, yes I do agree with you on the fact that Disney should disassociate themselves with MGM, ive thought this for a while. But GMR should still remain a family oriented ride. They could make it a e-ticket like Pirates. Give it some good special effects but nothing that will scare away people pron to motion sickness, etc. If you take away the GMR what ride in the studios doesnt give motion sickness besides the shows and the backlot tour. I do agree with you though that Disney should make a ride that competes with Spiderman, but isnt that going to be Toy Story Mania. GMR should get rid of the MGM movies but it should not rid its concept as a ride through the movies that puts you into the movies. There is room for other E-ticket thrill rides, don't touch my GMR!!!

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    Okay I have a couple of ideas. This is all based on if the studios really wants to be a real working studio, they need to have the facilities..... Oh, and my final suggestion is for outside the park but, it would definately improve your experience.

    1. Re-do/Expand the Backlot Tour - Create a new overpass over the entrance road. In the area across the road, create an all new real studio area. Have some new soundstages here and some new street sets, this includes a new residential street and others not yet seen at the studios. Also, in this new studio area, there will be some special effects drive-throughs a la Catastrophe Canyon. In this new area, there will also be Walt's plane in new drive-thru hanger. Basically, what the ride becomes is the Studios' answer to Kilimanjaro Safaris. In regards to re-doing the tour, remove the ridiculous Stunt Show "practice" area. With this area, turn it in a small bonyard or something that benefits the tour. Of course, the water FX show needs updating but also, how about enclosing the wait area or something to make it better for those humid florida summers?
    2. Make ABC's Presence stronger in the park- Like stated above, the best thing would be to make it a real studio again. ABC already exists in the form of a counter service restaurant, a defunct theater and an unpopular attraction. I would say bring back the monster sound show and an updated version of superstar television. If the studios were to expand across the road they could bring the local ABC station to the studios and have a mini-studio tour within the studio (and then time as we know it will collapse )
    3. Expand the rides selection - Many of the current theater venues are too small to be re-born as rides. There for, I believe that these new rides need to be built in new structures. The options I see are building out into the area in between TOT and RNRC, along the path to Fantasmic!, behind the restaurants on Sunset Blvd, or they could build (once again) across the entrance roadway to expand the park. If they were to build across the roadway. They could create a pathway in between Star Tours & The Backlot Express.
    4. Remove the current trams and install moving sidewalks - The trams at especially DS (and AK a lot too) are infrequent and seem to be a waste of time with the size of the parking lot. Personally, I think that they should make their parking lot like DLP's and remove the wait. Heck, UO moves its guests this way. People are a lot more willing to put up with standing and riding a moving sidewalk than to wait for 30 + minutes for a tram.
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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    What needs to be done at MGM...
    take tower of terror, pick it up with a giant crane, move it to the magic kingdom, and tear down the park. problem solved
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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    Great Movie Ride definitely needs some refurb done. It was the same as the last time I went (5+ yrs. ago)!! Need some new rides...more stuff for the kids to do. Sounds Dangerous was a total waste of our time. Star Tours could use an update. I like the hat as well...the other 3 parks have a large central location (MK-castle, Epcot-Spaceship Earth and AK-Tree of Life)
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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence4ever View Post
    What needs to be done at MGM...
    take tower of terror, pick it up with a giant crane, move it to the magic kingdom, and tear down the park. problem solved
    WDI would never be able to tear down the park and restart from the beginning. It would look like they failed the first time and wish to rebuild it better. I wonder what Universal would say?



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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    Quote Originally Posted by tyler2cfhs View Post
    With everyone saying that MGM needs the most attention of the parks at WDW, I was wondering what everyone thinks needs to happen there. There is so many options like bringing the toon studios from Disney Studios in Paris. There is also the rumor that a Indiana Jones ride similar to the one at Disneyland to be built there. Personally I would like to see a more set theme to each of the different areas there and also a couple of d and c ticket rides. Then another e-ticket like Indiana Jones.

    What do you think??
    For me the biggest upgrade that needs to happen is with the movie ride. I love that ride, well let me be more specific. I love the beginning when you are in the que, and you can watch the movie scenes, and I love the end, where you can watch the movie scenese... In between, needs to be totally reworked. The CM's need to take acting lessons, or they should hire local actors to play CM's lol... They need to update the movie scenes with some newer movies...

    I would also like to see an Indy ride like the one in DIsneyworld. (Hey, on a side note, when Indy opened in DL< wasnt it supposed to have 3 possible ride scenarios instead of going through that one door in the middle, you could have gone through one of 3 different doors?)

    I would also like to see like Toontown from DL, get that crazy Roger Rabbit ride or something like that... I mean since its the Disney Studios now, they should try to incorporate more of their movies into the studio.

    Not sure what else to fix, but those are my changes....

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    New Idea- They should totaly put a spiderman type Nightmare Before Christmas Ride. That would be sooo cool. If in not spidy type then make it a regular dark ride. Could you imagine riding through the town, that would be GREAT!!!!

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    Quote Originally Posted by tyler2cfhs View Post
    New Idea- They should totaly put a spiderman type Nightmare Before Christmas Ride. That would be sooo cool. If in not spidy type then make it a regular dark ride. Could you imagine riding through the town, that would be GREAT!!!!

    ohhh that would be cool...

    I wonder if a kids Herbie ride would work well? Make it like the grand prix cars in the MK, where they are on rails, but at some points, the car might bounce or do a wheelie, or spin around... just to keep the kids happy...

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    1. Take the hat down
    2. Um...yeah, nothing really. MGM is my favorite park because of the retro "Hollywood-that-never-was" atmosphere. The hat is a huge minus to that. Other than that, I don't really care what they do. Add another E-ticket, whatever, just keep the original vision. The Great Movie Ride could use some spiffy-fication, but it's one of my favorites still.

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    but I think Disney should start considering thier options for when they finally come to their senses and discontinue association with MGM.
    It's not a matter of coming to their senses. After the contract is up, the MGM name will be leaving. MGM has already made it clear that they're not renewing the contract it's just a matter of what we'll call the park after the MGM name is gone. The two popular ideas are just the Disney Studios or the Disney-Pixar Studios. Personally I'd just like it to stay with the Disney Studios name. That's what the one in Paris is called and it's what it's been referred to for years in new media. Why change it anymore.

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    When does the contract run out? This doesn't mean un-MGMing the rides does it? I just wouldn't like The Tower of Terror without the Twilight Zone theme...

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    MGM doesn't own the Twilight Zone, CBS does. Different contract. And Don't worry about the GMR, once again a different contract. Basically, what will go is the signage and anything with the name in it. Disney used MGM in '89 when building the park because at the time, Disney was still recovering from their nightmare, the 80's. They needed a company to help them out, MGM was willing to.
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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    I'll still miss the MGM name...

    WB owns MGM's library now, right?

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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    If I remember right, it's Sony pictures that owns the film library, although I'm not very sure about that. The Disney Studios have a great deal of potential options to pursue in the future. Disney has a great film library, and with Pixar on hand, new animation exhibits or attractions are most certainly a possibility. That being said, they should not use Pixar as a crutch. Right now, Disney is experiencing this Pixar-caused euphoria that one can get the impression they do not fear ever will end, but they can't bank on that. They must seek out new ideas and fully utilize their creative potential. Unfortunately for us, this does not occur in simply updating old attractions. Rides like GMR, Star Tours , and even shows like Indy Jones are becoming old hat. What Disney needs, and this goes for every park, is new ideas and an increased repeatability factor. Disney has four theme parks, now they need to work on convincing the public to want to spend at least one, if not two days at each park. Utilizing the increasing population of Central Florida, they are going to want to turn WDW as a whole into a new Disneyland. Without this, WDW, and MGM in particular will stagnate, as they have been. Maintenence and update are not features, they are expected, the public needs something new, or something mind boggling. Hopefully Toy Story Mania will be a step in the right direction, but I really doubt it.
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    Re: What Needs to Be Done at MGM...

    I'm not 100% certain of when the contract runs out, but Al Lutz has talked about it in several of his updates the past year.

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