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    I don't follow WDW news that closely, especially those about MGM, but it looks to me that everything is still speculative at this point.

    From an outsider's point of view the attitude was coming from all sides, so I don't see why disneyreporter was punished for it other than the fact that it was many against one.

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    Re: 'Toy Story Mania' Updates and Info

    Quote Originally Posted by kirbilicious View Post
    Since when are AA's automatically superior to everything else?

    AA's are really there in three dimensions, they aren't computer images.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpokkerJones View Post
    I don't follow WDW news that closely, especially those about MGM, but it looks to me that everything is still speculative at this point.

    From an outsider's point of view the attitude was coming from all sides, so I don't see why disneyreporter was punished for it other than the fact that it was many against one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirbilicious
    Since when are AA's automatically superior to everything else?
    Originally Posted by GhostHost2
    AA's are really there in three dimensions, they aren't computer images.
    Spiderman at IOA does okay without AA's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogaFrito View Post
    Spiderman at IOA does okay without AA's...
    Spider-man may be a great ride that I would love for Disney to have, but it is still not in the league of the Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Carribbean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHost2 View Post
    AA's are really there in three dimensions, they aren't computer images.
    Because it is a Disney site and Disney invented the modern AA of course.

    Never mind that most AAs still look like moving maniquins

    They work best when you are not close to them and they are placed in situations where they are expected to be pretty static with limited variation.

    People here will always criticize something for lacking AAs because its how Disney started
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogaFrito View Post
    Spiderman at IOA does okay without AA's...
    So is that it then...as long as disney is "on par" with Universal thats ok with you? Disney used to be WAY above everyone else in terms of quality attractions, quality service, top notch maintenance,etc. it was never supposed to be "good enough for six flags" mentality.

    Disney used to be about setting benchmarks not following them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster626 View Post
    So is that it then...as long as disney is "on par" with Universal thats ok with you? Disney used to be WAY above everyone else in terms of quality attractions, quality service, top notch maintenance,etc. it was never supposed to be "good enough for six flags" mentality.

    Disney used to be about setting benchmarks not following them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    Because it is a Disney site and Disney invented the modern AA of course.

    Never mind that most AAs still look like moving maniquins

    They work best when you are not close to them and they are placed in situations where they are expected to be pretty static with limited variation.

    People here will always criticize something for lacking AAs because its how Disney started
    AAs are a lot more convincingly real than a projection.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster626 View Post
    So is that it then...as long as disney is "on par" with Universal thats ok with you? Disney used to be WAY above everyone else in terms of quality attractions, quality service, top notch maintenance,etc. it was never supposed to be "good enough for six flags" mentality.

    Disney used to be about setting benchmarks not following them.
    Exactly how I feel. I think it is ridiculous that Disney has let Universal get so far ahead of them. Universal's Men in Black ride is way better than Buzz Lightyear; and Revenge of the Mummy is better than Expedition Everest (at least juding from the video I watched off Youtube).
    I think TSM! has alot of potential, but it still might be too little too late. Now that Disney has let Harry Potter fall into the hands of Universal, well they will really have to outperform Universal in every way imaginable and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostbuster626 View Post
    So is that it then...as long as disney is "on par" with Universal thats ok with you? Disney used to be WAY above everyone else in terms of quality attractions, quality service, top notch maintenance,etc. it was never supposed to be "good enough for six flags" mentality.
    Um, have you even been on Spiderman?

    I don't know how the "Six Flags" comment applies to my post, but as far as being "on par" with Universal, a new Disney attraction being favorably compared with the Spiderman ride would be quite a few steps up from what we've seen from them lately...

    I'd say if anything, Universal has produced a ride that's "on par" with Disney. I mean, it's no Stitch's Great Escape or anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogaFrito View Post
    Um, have you even been on Spiderman?

    I don't know how the "Six Flags" comment applies to my post, but as far as being "on par" with Universal, a new Disney attraction being favorably compared with the Spiderman ride would be quite a few steps up from what we've seen from them lately...
    That was Disney's mentality towards DCA when they were under construction. No Joke. About the "On Par" with Six Flags.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHost2 View Post
    AAs are a lot more convincingly real than a projection.
    Depends on the application. Most AAs are so basic... they can't do much convincingly. Most look like a dolled up whore or with complexions that look nothing like a human. Most move like Steve Erkel.

    To blanket doom anything not AA or blanket praise something because it is AA is very biased. This is a Disney site, so you have to expect the bias towards it.

    You don't hear people bitching that the Leota head isn't a AA do you? No, because projection delivered the result people are convinced by.

    Poor AAs will blow just as bad as poor projection implementations.

    Something doesn't have to be physical to be convincing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnibus View Post
    Depends on the application. Most AAs are so basic... they can't do much convincingly. Most look like a dolled up whore or with complexions that look nothing like a human. Most move like Steve Erkel.

    To blanket doom anything not AA or blanket praise something because it is AA is very biased. This is a Disney site, so you have to expect the bias towards it.

    You don't hear people bitching that the Leota head isn't a AA do you? No, because projection delivered the result people are convinced by.

    Poor AAs will blow just as bad as poor projection implementations.

    Something doesn't have to be physical to be convincing.
    I completely agree with this. People are talking about how Disney should be so far ahead of Universal and such but aren't projections much more advanced than AA's? People always want Disney to make groundbreaking attractions but than label a ride with AA's as automatically superior to one with projections before either ride is even opened. Don't get me wrong - I love AA's but they aren't exactly groundbreaking any more. At least with TSM Disney is doing something new by creating a 3-D shooting game.

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    Re: 'Toy Story Mania' Updates and Info

    On the topic of AA's and projections, both of these things have their ups and downs period. Though we all know if there done right they can be simply spectactular.

    Though I have to say when it comes to the interactive dark rides, I prefer shooting at a AA or model over a screen. That's probably why I'm a bit more excited for the MI attraction at TDL then TSM, to me I admit TSM looks like a moving video game.

    That doesn't mean I won't ride it of course, all it means is it better do something that will distract me from thinking I could simply go to the arcade to play something like it.
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    Two things:

    This attraction will be hugely popular when it opens, projections or not. Just look at how popular the largely plywood Buzz Lightyear is.

    And the name of the park WILL be changing. This isn't rumor from 2000, 2003 or last spring ... this is the corporate plan. Believe it or don't.

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