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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    How about what happens at Fantasmic? Do they route people backstage on a regular basis when the show is complete? I've only experienced it myself once, but I've only seen that show twice, so I'm probably not the best to comment.

    I see what a lot of you are saying about the Magic Kingdom parks. But, I don't really see the need with Fantasmic. That was a new addition to the park with a set number of guests in it at one time. So, why wasn't it designed properly in the first place?
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by halltd View Post
    How about what happens at Fantasmic? Do they route people backstage on a regular basis when the show is complete? I've only experienced it myself once, but I've only seen that show twice, so I'm probably not the best to comment.

    I see what a lot of you are saying about the Magic Kingdom parks. But, I don't really see the need with Fantasmic. That was a new addition to the park with a set number of guests in it at one time. So, why wasn't it designed properly in the first place?
    I've personally never seen them use any backstage areas to exit Florida's Fantasmic. It could be because they simply don't see a need. Perhaps the normal exit flow is acceptable and doesn't constipate like the Magic Kingdom tends to do.

    As far as the question as to why they don't design things that way from the beginning goes...the fact of the matter is that when you drop a big new attraction into an pre-existing theme park as Fantasmic was...you are sometimes limited in what you would ideally like to do. "Add-ons" very often present problems and challenges to the existing facility. Sometimes you can overcome these problems. Other times you just decide to live with them as a necessary minor evil for the greater good. Not that I'm saying there is a problem with Fantasmic.

    Believe me...every time they short-cut Guests from Tomorrowland to Town Square...they know it's costing them some substantial money. Not only in the cost of staffing the short-cut, but mostly in the lost merchandise revenue they know a Main Street by-pass costs them. Guests tend to do a lot of impulse buying as they make their way down The Mall of Main Street. Disney doesn't like to lose that revenue at all! But in the interest of safety and reducing Guest complaints...they do the short-cuts out of necessity.
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Ok well first off are you kidding? Oh ya and welcome to the MC but most people would love to go backstage. ?!?!?! As for the smoking cast members welcome to the real world? And would you rather they dont eat and starve? The land of dreams gets breaks to ya know

    It come down to safety and time would you rather wait loooooonger just to get out through main street?
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    This is a practice older than Disney World. It's the occasional effect of the parks being as busy as they are.

    One way to deal with it is, as you said, to let less people in. That destroys more magic because WDW is a location where people are effectively trapped on property. What would you rather have, wide-eyed guests walking behind some shops to keep crowd control from getting dangerous, or "sorry dear, we can't go to the Magic Kingdom because there's too many people inside?" How would you like it if you went in a particularly busy period where, for every day of your stay, if you didn't hit the MK in the first couple hours of operation it would be a gamble whether you could get in at all that day? Which destroys the magic more?

    This gets worse in the evening hours in periods when the B-list parks (MGM, DAK, water, etc) close and leave the two A-listers to soak up the entire WDW evening crowd.

    They turn people away at DL all the time, but at WDW you have this enormous audience of people who are only in FL for the just now, and they want to see the MK, and they're expecting it to be pretty crowded but they aren't expecting it to be closed. DL also has the advantage of a second park just a few feet away to act as a holding pen, hence the nickname "Disneyland's Waiting Room."

    The other, final, thing to keep in mind is that DL was overcrowded on Day One in 1955, and while a lot more people showed up then than Walt had expected, these days the company practically runs on high expectations for attendance. If you limit the number of people who go in there a day, your end result will be further diminishing returns in the way of refurbs and new rides. And at WDW, returns are already pretty small.

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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    I understand the OP point of view on it, he would rather maintain the magic and shuffling guests through the backstage area takes that away for him. Completely understandable.

    Although I'm one that likes being herded behind backstage, I even have photos from one year.

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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by SummerInFL View Post
    Although I'm one that likes being herded behind backstage, I even have photos from one year.
    and you havent posted them yet because????
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Gracie View Post
    and you havent posted them yet because????
    I did actually, they were in my trip report from the Christmas parade taping in 06'.

    I'll PM you the link to the photos directly, not sure if they are still up in Mice Chat.

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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by SummerInFL View Post
    I did actually, they were in my trip report from the Christmas parade taping in 06'.

    I'll PM you the link to the photos directly, not sure if they are still up in Mice Chat.
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opus1guy View Post
    I've personally never seen them use any backstage areas to exit Florida's Fantasmic. It could be because they simply don't see a need. Perhaps the normal exit flow is acceptable and doesn't constipate like the Magic Kingdom tends to do.
    The only reason I asked this is because it happened to me before. We were routed out of the theatre, down the hill on a long winding road, and popped out at Crossroads right next to the stroller/scooter renter "station".
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    they only do it during extremely busy times like when they are taping the christmas parade, and the weeks around christmas and new years and 4th of july. I have been backstage twice in all the visits I have been the WDW and they don't allow photos backstage. If you are caught you are told that and then threatened to have your camera taken away as well as be escorted out of the park. Have been there when that happened, not to me but I did witness it, twice. FUnny thing one time it was a cm that was taking pictures. I would love to be able to get out that way more often because it means you don't have to deal with mainstreet and all the shops and people stopping in the middle of the street to stop and get one more picture or have the photopass people stopping traffic. I have never exited out of fantasmic backstage, Didn't know you could.

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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by halltd View Post
    I'm new to the site, but did a search before posting this topic. I couldn't find anything very relevant, so I'm making a new topic. If it's a common discussion, I apologize in advance.

    Anyways, I let it go because it only happened to me once, so I thought it was a fluke. Then, maybe a year later, we were at Fantasmic at night. Lo and behold, after the show, they directed almost the entire theatre BACKSTAGE to exit to the front of the park. I was like, "what the heck is going on here?" It wasn't an overly crowded day and that show happens daily. It's not like they were surprised at how many guests showed up to the show. The theatre holds "X" number of guests, so they know this in advance. I say, plan accordingly. Is this what they do on a regular basis? (I actually have been boycotting the show since that happened!)
    For Fantasmic is so big and is fast to let poeple out that side of theatre and the people are another side go out the way everyone can in.
    It is fast way to get every out of Disney hollywood studio.
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    With my school band, we performed at Disney Magic Music Days and we were allowed backstage near POTC via the "brown round top door". It was very cool to see all the stuff we got to see. If I remember correctly we went all the way around behind Splash Mountain as well.
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    I've never been taken backstage as a guest, but, as a cast member, I remember how devastated I was the first time we went back stage to see the characters carrying their heads around!! Oh, the horror!!
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    The characters' heads come off? Wouldn't that kill them?
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    Re: Taking guests backstage on purpose?

    Quote Originally Posted by halltd View Post
    The characters' heads come off? Wouldn't that kill them?

    LOL I love your sense of humor. Oh and welcome to Mice Chat.

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