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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    I really don't think this was an essay about the behaviors of the culture back in the 1950's. It was simply an observation about the way many people dressed at Disneyland back in the 1950's. I'm not sure why people like Acetone have to read so deeply into the article as if it's a personal attack on the way they prefer to dress.

    Acetone, I've read an essay you wrote. Frankly, since you have that experience, I'm surprised that you misunderstood Werner's point.
    Just my opinion. Lighten up.
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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    I concur with Warner. Dressing well affects your behavior and vice-versa. Goth day would be a prime, if unconventional, example of folks who work hard on an outfit, and, as a result, come to the park with an attitude that reflects the effort.
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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    Although, I have to agree that we've come a long way from the "over-sanitized" society of that time. You were expected to dress a certain way, act a certain way, all in the hopes that the public would think that there was nothing wrong. Films like "Pleasantville" and "Far From Heaven" have deconstructed the issues of that time. It's sad to think we glamourize a time in our history that was riddled with problems.
    As an interesting observation: It could also be said that the "over-sanitization-for-the-purpose-of-hiding-dark-issues" view of the 50s is looking back at them with 1960's-colored glasses, and those borrowed from a hollywood producer.

    PS: I would love to dress nicer when visting the park, but my budget is a stickler and slaps my hand whenever I touch something that isn't a t-shirt or jeans.




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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnReimer View Post
    In a similar vein, I tend to get a lot of questions from visitors assuming I'm a manager. I frequently go to DL/DCA after my in-the-meantime-job, where I wear business professional but NO tie.

    But it's so out of the visitor norm that I guess I look official. Which is ok, I've always been able to answer the questions. Once from an ODV CM too. (and no, I don't wear a name tag!)
    I had a white golf shirt ordered that contained a little three inch image of my avatar in celebration of EPCOT Center's 25th Anniversary. I have worn the shirt to Walt Disney World on a few occasions and each time I have had people ask if I am a manager.


    I do think going to the Disney parks is a special occasion. I usually wear a t-shirt or golf shirt (I can't resist getting soaked on Splash Mountain, et al.) but I won't wear my work jeans with the huge hole down the side. I made it a point to wear a shirt and trousers to Disneyland for the 50th, which was a bit of a challenge to keep looking nice when lining up at 2:00 AM.

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

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    The guests in the photo at the Christmas tree are the Lennon Sisters of Lawrence Welk (and Branson) fame.

    The Lennon's father and mother are behind Janet in the City Hall photo.

    Fans are discussing this at WelkNotes on Yahoo. Thanks to them for identifying these Disneyland guests who were singing on an ABC network TV show each Saturday night in the 50's and 60's.
    Thank you for bringing this to my attention! I had no idea. I remember The Lennon Sisters from when I was a little kid and my mother would watch the Lawrence Welk Show. When compared these Yesterland photos to photos of the young Lennon Sisters on the Internet, there is no doubt that it's them.

    I just added one more picture of the Lennon Sisters to the article. They're posing in front of City Hall at Disneyland. I've now identified them in captions and in the article.


    Other websites have celebrity snapshots of Paris Hilton or Britney Spears. Yesterland has The Lennon Sisters!
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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    Great article Warner, very intersting to see 50's fashion. I agree, we've lost many things in the last few decades, decorum and decency being among them.

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    I say, I am impressed that you got the Lennon Sisters in your own personal pictures - my grandfather and grandmother have one or two - I disagree that we should still dress up going to the parks (my dad wears a suit and tie occasionally still) - as society has determined the main dress code. Not everyone in Disneyland is going to go in cutoffs and "offensive" shirts, but I don't feel like there needs to be a super strict dress code.

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    I go to plays and people still dress up. It's not that people have changed, it's that Disneyland has changed. I blame the introduction of the churro.

    You'll never see me in gym clothes. I dress up for Disneyland, although I occationally miss 1955 dressy by a few hundred years.

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    You can't seriously be comparing a night at the theater with a day at Disneyland, can you? I'd dress up for a play, as well, but it's always shorts and tshirt (albeit clean ones!) for DL.

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    Dressing at Tokyo Disneyland

    I think the dressing up (or not) at the park is not a sign of the times.

    It's all about the perceived status of the Disneyland experience.

    As a contrast, check out Tokyo Disneyland and Disneysea. When I was there a few years ago, attending those parks was more akin to going out to the theater in this country. Almost all of the local japanese tourists got dressed up to go out to the parks, and to them this was an experience on par with what we in LA would describe as going out to the Ahmanson Theater to see a musical.

    And as someone who has recently been to the LA music center, I can attest that people still do get dressed up to go to see musical theater.

    I believe there will always be venues that the public perceives to be "sophisticated" and in order to blend in, you feel peer pressure to dress up. Disneyland has lost that feeling over the years, unfortunately.

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    Sorry, Pretzel, but I just can't agree with this. I don't think Disneyland EVER had the atmosphere that required people to dress up. When we look at the pictures that Werner posted, people do indeed appear dressed up. But I'm betting that you'd see the same type of clothing in a grocery store, a restaurant, or anywhere out on the street. It's not DL that they're dressing up for - they're simply dressing the way they do when they go out, anywhere.

    These days society allows a much more casual dress code for people out in public. What you see in a Disney park is the same as you'll see just about anywhere that there's outdoor activity. Comfort over style. Some folks (like me) applaud the more casual style. Others wish for the formality of days gone by. As long as people keep under cover the body parts that are meant to be kept under cover, and don't do it with profanity-laced artwork, I have no problem.

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    I wasn't born in the 50's, but I can sure appreciate that era and the dress styles.

    I love the 50's and everything it represented. Perhaps that's why I've seen the movie, *HAIRSPRAY* 8 times now. I realize that movie was based in 1962, but when you see it, you can still see a lot of the 50's elements in it. The way the boys and girls dressed were incredible, and I just wish we could go back to that style today.

    How I see people dressed today at the Disneyland Resort can be horrible and I wonder how they don't get stopped and asked to change their clothes. Especially when they have vulgar words/pictures on their shirts.

    I've always said I was born in the wrong era!

    I Love The 50's!!

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    Some thoughts on this...

    Werner, or anybody. Please correct me if I am wrong. But wasn't there a time in DL history when if you went to the park wearing blue jeans you were escorted to an area where you were to exchange your blue jeans for a pair of slacks? Or is the DL urban legend? I don't know.

    Also, my high school prom was in 1985 at the Anaheim Convention Center, before the days of AP's and DL ticket prices were cheap enough to that it was not a big deal (at least for spoiled Newport Beach kids) to buy one. Well, even for high schoolers the lure of DL across the street was way more enticing then trapsing around the convention center so many of us left the prom and headed for DL, complete with tuxes and prom dresses in tow! Lots of curious stares from the guests, even 22 years ago!

    And even today, if I decide to stop by after work I don't bother to change first. I will just go, complete in my business casual attire!

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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    I wouldn't want to be all dressed up and get soaked on Splash Mountain. The dress was different back then and so were the attractions.


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    Re: September 14, 2007: Dressing for Disneyland

    Well of course the people who've gone to DL in T-shirts and flip flops all their lives won't agree with the people who'd prefer a return to slightly more formal attire. If you've spoken with a Southern accent all your life, you're not going to agree with someone who finds it vulgar.

    I suppose all you can do is set an example (in vain, but as a principle). Wear those slacks and those sun dresses and leave others be. And if you happen to see a corpulent derrière looking ominously as though about to escape its straining, cut off denim covering, give your friends a look of offended bemusement.

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